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Cast Bullets and Lee Liquid Alox

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by tkcomer, Apr 26, 2008.

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  1. tkcomer

    tkcomer Member

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    I'm getting ready to try some Lee Liquid Alox on my cast bullets to stop some of the leading in my leverguns. Plus I hear it makes cleanup easier. What I need to know is, how long does this stuff last after you apply it to the bullets? Can I do like a thousand bullets and store them until I load them? Can I put the bullets back in the cardboard box or should I stick them in baggies? Or should I just lube up what I need? Any advice would be appreciated.
     
  2. Pumpkinheaver

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    I cast and lube up thousands at a time and put them in a coffe can untill needed. You need to keep them in a sealed container. The lee alox will attract dust even after it is dried.
     
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    yup you can just store them loose. no point in stackin em- especially if your tumble lubing.

    cut the alox with a cap full of mineral spirits it'll apply much easier. A little bit goes a long way :)
     
  4. tkcomer

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    Thanks for the info. I've never used this stuff before. I have the Alox on order and I'm just trying to figure out what I need to do. My 44 mag loads leads the barrel the first 5 of 6 inches of the gun. The rest of the barrel is clean. It was suggested I give the Alox a try. If it works, I'll use it on my 357 and 30-30 bullets also. Stuff is cheap enough. I just hope it comes with some instructions on how to apply it.
     
  5. snuffy

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    I'm confused by your question. What are you lubing? If someone cast those for sale, why aren't they already lubed?

    If you're talking about Hornady or speer lead bullets sold in boxes, they are NOT cast, they are swaged nearly pure lead. They also have no lube grooves for the LLA to sit in, that means you're simply trying to coat the side of a bullet. I doubt the LLA will solve your problem with leading.

    As to how to use it? Simply put the bullets in a plastic bowl. squirt the LLA all over them, then swirl the bullets around in the bowl until they're coated. Sit the on their bases until they dry, usually takes about 24 hours.
     
  6. tkcomer

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    The bullets in question are Oregon Trail Laser Cast. They already have a little lube in the ring on them. The gun is a Rossi Puma. The bullets are sized at .431. I tried plated bullets sized at .429, but they shot all over the map. These .431 bullets shoot great, but I do get leading in about the first 6" in the barrel. The rest of the barrel is clean. It was suggested that these bullets are too hard for the velocity I'm loading for and to try the Alox to limit the leading I'm getting. I'm shooting low power loads. "They" say the Lee Alox will stop a lot of the leading I'm getting. I don't know, but as cheap as this stuff is, I'll give it a try.
     
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    the lee liquid alox is great stuff. Same time i have found that if i tumble 500-1000 today. then put them in a coffee can on sunday night or monday afternoon. they will still be sticky. However after about a week. Take the can and shake them up. then leave it alone. The next week it seems as though the stickyness will almost be gone. a lot easier to handle. i have a whole bunch of bullets i casted and lubed during last summer that i can easily touch without making a mess. so the longer you wait the better they are to handle. Another person recomended putting a little bit of baby powder (talc powder) over them. i tried it once but it seemed kinda like a hastle. Results with the lee liquid alox is really good though.
     
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    I use Liquid Alox on prelubed bullets in a lot of cases. Works just fine and does help with leading problems in some guns.
     
  9. snuffy

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    I don't think you have a lube problem. When a bullet "runs out of lube" it will lead the last couple of inches of the barrel.

    Lead in in the first part of the barrel indicates a fit problem, the bullet NOT matching the bore diameter. Have you slugged the bore?
     
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    Snuffy is right on target here. :)

    Sounds more like bullets that are undersized or too hard for the pressure generated, but they are not "running out of lube".
     
  11. tkcomer

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    I haven't slugged the barrel yet and I've not shot jacketed bullets through it either. The general consensus is that the bullets are too hard and not expanding for the lower velocities I'm loading at. The older Rossi's in 44 mag are well know to have oversized bores. Supposedly, that's why the gun was shotgunning the .429 bullets. The bullets aren't running out of lube or it would lead the entire barrel as was suggested. I was "told" the Lee Alox will help prevent flame cutting the first few inches of travel. I don't know, but I'm willing to try. These bullets shoot great. I've spotted several posts on different boards that have said the Alox has stopped leading in store bought cast bullets that are doing the same type of leading I'm having. Me, on the other hand, probably won't have that luck.
     
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    I usuallyput it on all my store bought lead bullest including hardcast and prelubed swagged bullets.

    I put 100 bullets into a large peanut butter jar, and about a teaspoon of the liquid alox. I shake it well, till the bullets are coated and then dump them onto a carboard beer tray to dry for a few hours. then I put em in my bullet tray and load them up.
     
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