Cat in Tree. Phx Officer "flashes" weapon to defend property?

[cassandrasdaddy]

but to run out waving it around just because someone is in your yard is another matter.

did someone claim he waved his gun?i can't find that claim. or are you just into kittys?

 

[EmGeeGeorge]

Its "plain an simple" there isn't enough info to make any sort of judgement about the situation... it doesn't say he pointed a gun, brandished... It says a person in his backyard made a statement that he flashed badge and gun... two ppl he didn't know were in his yard... he didn't a.) shoot thru a door not knowing who was on the other side (something I've seen ppl say was okay on THIS SITE) b> b.)shoot the gun into the air to ward them off or c.) shoot the cat out of the tree as "cats can be dangerous and blah blah blah" as I again have seen board members advocate in past threads... I can almost hear the mouth breathing thru my hi-speed connection...

 

[.45&TKD]

I think we know enough to conclude that this officer has very questionable judgement and has an inability to solve simple social conflicts. He should not have a badge.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

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I imagine we know enough to conclude that this officer has very questionable judgement and has an inability to solve simple social conflicts. He should not have a badge.

 

[withdrawn34]

I'm not sure I'm really following what people are saying here.

So maybe let's ask another question:

If you were the officer, what would YOU have done differently?

 

[Treo]

Shot the cat out of the tree

 

[kingpin008]

If you were the officer, what would YOU have done differently?

Assuming that I didn't want them on my property (as the officer obviously didn't) I'd tell them to stay the hell off my property, and if they continued, I'd call the cops. If they continued, I'd do what was necessary to keep them from accessing my property. If that means pulling my gun (or making it visible) then so be it. If they're not going to take the hint that they have no right to be there, and that I'm a police officer telling them to stay away, then there's no telling what kind of mental midget I'm dealing with. Best to make one's intentions acutely clear in that case, imho.

 

[EmGeeGeorge]

here's a quick story; lived in everett, wa(actually just outside city limits,south side)... last years there were a string of car breakins, thefts, a shooting or two within two hundred yards of my house... One night I hear some malarky in the lot... Its 2 am, I was known for being helpful and looking out after my property and my neighbors as well... I went outside pistol in holster, open carried kydex job... I see dopers in an unfamiliar beater car, sitting in the darkest corner of lot... I very visibly flip open my phone, dial 911 and the dopers see me... see phone (by its light I presume) maybe see my gun... and poof! they disappear! (never saw that car again either) I didn't point the gun... the gun was in the open, I was carrying it... "open carry"... this being said... I wasn't lookin to zip anyone, wasnt waving a gun, was on with the operator transmitting the situation... I'm sure by the time said methheads told their fellow scum-of-the-earth "some crazy dude shot like 5 shots at us and chased us outta the lot... we were just smoking meth"...
If you ever have the occasion to shoot someone who most likely deserves it (thief, rapo, robber, what have you) hope I or someone like me is on your jury if it comes to that, cause whether your a cop or a carpenter, righteous shoot has nothing to do with where you are, Texas, Chicago, or where ever...
guy had every right to confront suspicious folks on his property...

 

[expvideo]

Who's story do you trust more? The people who were knowingly trespassing, or the cop? Not that being a cop automatically makes someone credible, but admitting to trespassing and not seeing the problem with it says a lot about the character of these poeple.

I'll bet you that the badge and gun were on the cop's belt. He probably opened his coat to flash the badge and let them know that they were trespassing on a cop's property, so if they didn't leave he would arrest them. The gun was probably right behind the badge, and these people, not seeing the problem with their lawlessness, thought they would try to make the cop look like the bad guy in this situation. I highly doubt that this encounter went as badly as they are trying to make it sound, and I would trust the judgement of this cop over the trespassers, who should have been arrested.

here's a quick story; lived in everett, wa(actually just outside city limits,south side)... last years there were a string of car breakins, thefts, a shooting or two within two hundred yards of my house... One night I hear some malarky in the lot... Its 2 am, I was known for being helpful and looking out after my property and my neighbors as well... I went outside pistol in holster, open carried kydex job... I see dopers in an unfamiliar beater car, sitting in the darkest corner of lot... I very visibly flip open my phone, dial 911 and the dopers see me... see phone (by its light I presume) maybe see my gun... and poof! they disappear! (never saw that car again either) I didn't point the gun... the gun was in the open, I was carrying it... "open carry"... this being said... I wasn't lookin to zip anyone, wasnt waving a gun, was on with the operator transmitting the situation... I'm sure by the time said methheads told their fellow scum-of-the-earth "some crazy dude shot like 5 shots at us and chased us outta the lot... we were just smoking meth"...
If you ever have the occasion to shoot someone who most likely deserves it (thief, rapo, robber, what have you) hope I or someone like me is on your jury if it comes to that, cause whether your a cop or a carpenter, righteous shoot has nothing to do with where you are, Texas, Chicago, or where ever...
guy had every right to confront suspicious folks on his property...

Hey, that's where I live. Nice little town, huh?

 

[marsofold]

Just chop down the tree!