CCI Pistol Shotshell Ammo

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Anyone have any experience with CCI Pistol Shotshell Ammunition

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... is it a good idea for use against snakes and smaller rabid animals that a person might encounter in the woods while hiking / camping or should one just stick with regular ammo for those purposes?
 
It is good for snakes and rats, but nothing bigger. The pattern spreads VERY fast and the shot loses speed very fast. In .45 acp, it cycles my 1911s just fine. What it is good to shoot is based on what wildlife folks have told me. Don't count on it going through heavy fur.

I've carried it into the field several times, never had to shoot a thing. I end up shooting rounds as a novelty. With shotshells, I can shoot as good as Annie Oakley, but of course, she used shotshells as well!
 
the 45 acp rounds worked in my Colt Combat Elite and a Kimber SST Compact. for some reason in a S & W 645 , 4506 and 745 the rounds locked them up because the cases stuck to the chamber walls. I had to drop a cleaning rod down the barrels to knock them loose but since I down have those pistols anymore it doesn't matter
 
Great Snake Medicine

I've used them very effectively to eliminate a snake infestation on my property. The 38/357 shells are just fabulous out of my 3" Model 66. A sharp machete works wonders too.
 
Here in Arkansas, it is actually illegal to shoot rattlesnakes (but no jury would ever convict you.)

Sometimes I carry .45 ACP shot loads (for copperheads and cottonmouths only, of course.) They function very nicely in my Kimber Custom Classic.

We do have other critters around -- racoons and skunks which can be rabid, loose dogs, bear and mountain lion (yes - one was seen within a hundred yards of my house not two weeks ago.)

My practice is to carry one ball or hollowpoint in the chamber and a shot cartridge in the #1 position in the magazine. That way, if I need a real bullet right away, I have it, and if I run into a snake, I always have time to rack the slide.
 
My guess that is only for protecting varieties, but not all rattlesnakes.

Yes, machetes work fine. In my herp class at Texas A&M, James Dixon liked to start off classes with stories of a bizarre nature as they pertained to herps, or stupid human tricks as pertained to by herps. Some of his favorite were the accounts of folks doing things like using a skick, rake, hoe, or machete to try to kill a snake and getting bitten in the process. In many cases, the bite was either a second bite on the person or a first bite on a buddy who felt it necessary to have the snake to take to the hospital so that the right anti-venom could be administered. The really funny part was that often the first bite was a dry bite and so the original injury was nothing a bandaid wouldn't fix, but the second bite, either to the same person or the idiot helper, was full of venom and that was the bite that caused all the trouble.

FYI, there are only two types of indigenous snake venon here in the US. Rattlesnakes, copperheads, water mocasins all inject the same hematoxin. Coral snakes inject a neuraltoxin. If you were invenomated by a snake that was not red, black, and yellow, then you ended up with a hematoxin. The question is just how much did you get? Copperheads and water mocasins physically hold less than rattlesnakes, but all have the ability to limit the amount of venom released. Don't be fooled into believing that their little BB-sized brains do higher math. They don't engage in a complex decision tree on how much to give you when they bite based on their current needs, perceived fear, and how big you are. They just bite. If they are really scared, they will give you as much as they can. If they aren't really scared, you may get a dry bite.
 
I had 38 special versions of this load and I was never impressed with them. They were ok for mice or up close on snakes. That close a garden tool works also.

I now have some in 44 special and out of a 5.5 inch barrel they actually are useful. I don't know if it is the bigger casing, the longer barrel, or more pellets, but the 44 special ones will kill a small cat or muskrat with good shot placement. You are talking about a range of maybe 10 feet that I have tried it from. Any farther out than that and the shot shell injures things so you can get a 2nd shot with a normal round.

I have some feral cats in my barn and muskrats in the ponds and the shot shell is good for not doing damage to my stuff.

I live in the country and varmints or pests or whatever you want to call them abound out here. I usually carry a cci shell as the first shell to be fired and back it up with hollowpoint 44 special blazer stuff.

I never had any luck with the 3 or 4 inch barrels on my 357 mag revovlers when using the 38 special cci stuff. And like I said I don't know if it was the barrel or something else.
 
I have shot quite a few of the .45 acp ones....

out of Governments, Commanders and Officer's barrels...they functioned fine in most cases, but have very limited use in my opinion.
The best voiced thus far is by Biere...not damaging your stuff in a barn or out building. It is just too short range to be of alot of use.
Snakes? As Uncle Jeff said, 'see snake, back up and walk around snake'.
Might be useful in scaring off rodents that like to get into garbage...I have used it for that, but had more luck with a speer plastic bullet in a primed case or Pepperspray to make an unforgetable impression for behavioral modification.
The pattern looks cool on paper, but the pentraion of the shot leaves alot to be desired. I still have a few that I carry in my boonie stomping kit, but mostly I use standard rounds because I know where they are going and how deep they'll go in.
My take....
Jercamp45
 
No, you can't damage your barrel with shot cartridges. Of course, you can get lead fouling (just as you can with lead bullets), but a good cleaning takes care of that.

And I can't imagine circumstances where you would shoot enough shot cartridges to make a difference, anyway.
 
i still think 22lr shotshells and a pump action carbine sound like a lot of fun, at least for a little while ;)

a tiny shotgun and a huge grin, can't beat that!
 
The CCI shot loads cycle in my Glock 17, 36 and Kahrs. The .45 ACP load from Glock 36 patterns even better than similar handloads from SBH with .45 Long Colt.

Good copperhead, rattler or water moc. medicine at short range. I've often used the .38 shot loads to finish off wounded quail, dove, or peasants trying to play hide and seek in the bush.

CCI won't like me saying this, but other manufacturer's (crimped case) 22 shot loads that come in boxes of 50 are just as effective (which is not very) and are a heck of a lot less expensive per shot.
 
I've used them for snakes and such at close range out of my .38 M85. I chambered a .45 shotshell three times in my .45, and it busted, some of the pellets got into my magazine, and the rest simply fell out the barrel, leaving me with an expensive blank. I havent fired any of those.

the .38s are only good up close, garden tool close like already mentioned. If I had the money, I'd rather go with a Mossberg .410 pump AOW for the added effectiveness, not to mention the cool factor...
 
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