Charter Arms bulldog pug 44 spec (is this a good deal?)

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there is an older looking bulldog pug for sale at a store near me -only 160$ !!...
It seems to be in fine condition,the gap between cylinder and frame looks about as tight as my newish ruger...

I don't even know why I want a 44 special...but 160 seems like to good to pass up.

are the older Charter Arms good guns?
 
I've heard they were hit and miss.....
but for $160 I'd chance it......I once bought a Taurus mod.805 for $150.....the only thing wrong with it was the grip didn't fit right..got a houge monogrip and the gun was great.....also got more than I paid for it when I traded it in.....good luck....
BTW...44spl has always peeked my interest...not sure why.....:cool:
 
I've owned 2 old model Undercover .38's. The first one I bought new. The second one I bought used and it had some problems. Charter 2000 checked it out and replaced some parts, and repair charge was $50. I think this model is a good substitute for a S&W "J" frame. I never owned one of their .44 specials. Several years ago I was considering a .44 and $150-$175 was the going price for a nice used one.
 
Charter Arms doesn't thrill me, but for $160, it might be worth a shot...

The concept on the other hand is sound - an easy to carry reliable means to deliver a very effective round on target. The 44 Spl, properly loaded is an awesome stopper.
 
I've had a couple of older Charters - and both were good guns for what they were - carry a lot & shoot a little type guns. One a .357 the other a .44 Spl. - both on the same "Bulldog" frame - both 1970's vintage. I still have one - sold the other to a friend (and I'd never sell a junk gun to a friend). They aren't the sort of guns one would select to run thousands and thousands of rounds through. But at a couple of hundered rounds or so of factory standard loaded ammo per year, it should give you good service for as long as you wish to use it.

If the example you are looking at is tight - and there aren't any unusual clicks, squeaks or hitches when cycling it - $160 sounds like a fair deal (they sold for about $200 to $250 brand new). And do insist on dry firing it - slowly - at least a dozen or so times to listen and feel for these sort of things. It's my impression that the internal moving parts on the Charters are more prone to wear than barrels, frames, cylinders and such.

The basic design is strong and the quality of metals tended to be pretty good (at least on the older ones). If you look closely you'll see that the grip / trigger frame is pinned to a solid main frame (unlike the solid framed Rugers whose basic frame design they most closely match). So the "shooting loose" stories you hear about these have to do with those components loosening up - and wear on the internals. It's unlikely you will see one with frame or cylinder stretching (even if abused). And even when they do loosen up there isn't a concern about safety. You just end up with a rattely / squeaky gun.
 
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