Beowolf1911
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Where are you getting mak ammo at 20 bucks the most I have ever paid was $13, if you look around you can find a box of 50 for 8 bucks, aimsurplus.com has it at that price from time to time.
Cheap and reliable semi auto pistol?
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I just got a CZ82 in like new condition for $209. The pistol is C&R eligible. It fires the 9x18 round. It has 12 round magazines and ambi safety, can be carried cocked and locked or double action. Cheap and 100% reliable.
My cheapest reliable pistol is a Norinco Tokarev clone in 9mm. I paid $89 for it years ago. I'm looking at Clark's modification to convert it to 9x23. There are now military surplus Romanian Tokarevs in 7.62x25 for $189.
My cheapest reliable pistol is a Norinco Tokarev clone in 9mm. I paid $89 for it years ago. I'm looking at Clark's modification to convert it to 9x23. There are now military surplus Romanian Tokarevs in 7.62x25 for $189.
ugaarguy
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S&W Sigma VE - $300 new, plus $50 mail in rebate, plus 2 extra mags (total of four after rebate). They're reliable, US made, and backed by a lifetime warranty should and great service department should you have a problem. Ergos are great. Trigger is heavy & squishy is my only complaint, but if you're used to shooting DA revolvers it's not that bad.
The surplus CZ-82s (and Makarovs when you can find them), already mentioned are very reliable low cost guns.
2nd Generation Glocks are getting cheaper and cheaper on the used market.
New Kel-Tecs and Bersas are also great values new.
Metal frame Taurus pistols are very nice for the money, but I've seen too many poly frame Taurus pistols come back with problems to trust them.
New and used Ruger pistols are always great values, reliable, and built like tanks.
The surplus CZ-82s (and Makarovs when you can find them), already mentioned are very reliable low cost guns.
2nd Generation Glocks are getting cheaper and cheaper on the used market.
New Kel-Tecs and Bersas are also great values new.
Metal frame Taurus pistols are very nice for the money, but I've seen too many poly frame Taurus pistols come back with problems to trust them.
New and used Ruger pistols are always great values, reliable, and built like tanks.
Koblenz
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+1 on this. I recently bought a S&W 4006 for $299. It is now my favorite handgun out of a fairly large collection. I like it better than the plastic framed .40s I've owned and fired because it has the weight to soak up what can sometimes be considerable recoil from hot .40 loads.
PX15
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Bersa/firestorm...
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woad_yurt
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Makarov IJ70-18A!!!
I just got one recently and it's fantastic. Ammo (9X18) is cheap at $9-$10 box, it's a natural pointer, pleasant to shoot and it's built very well. It's simply and strongly made. It only takes 2 minutes to break down for cleaning and parts are cheap and very available. It's also very flat. It'd be a good carry piece. I went to the range with a friend who had a CZ 82 (same caliber) and, even though they felt like they weighed about the same, the CZ kicked a lot more than my Mak. I am totally impressed with this pistol.
Now, if you want something stronger, there's always the CZ 52. Just figure in an aftermarket firing pin as the originals are cast and break fairly easily. Good surplus ammo is $119 for 1224 rounds and Wolf now makes hollowpoints for it.
Communist pistols are great for their simplicity, easy to clean and break down.
I just got one recently and it's fantastic. Ammo (9X18) is cheap at $9-$10 box, it's a natural pointer, pleasant to shoot and it's built very well. It's simply and strongly made. It only takes 2 minutes to break down for cleaning and parts are cheap and very available. It's also very flat. It'd be a good carry piece. I went to the range with a friend who had a CZ 82 (same caliber) and, even though they felt like they weighed about the same, the CZ kicked a lot more than my Mak. I am totally impressed with this pistol.
Now, if you want something stronger, there's always the CZ 52. Just figure in an aftermarket firing pin as the originals are cast and break fairly easily. Good surplus ammo is $119 for 1224 rounds and Wolf now makes hollowpoints for it.
Communist pistols are great for their simplicity, easy to clean and break down.
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Katana8869
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My Taurus PT145 has had over 1200 rounds through it without any trouble at all. I paid $360.00 for it new. My Carry gun is a Ruger P345. Picked it up for $350.00 used.
Both of these guns are every bit as reliable as my Glocks, my XD45C or my 1911's.
Both of these guns are every bit as reliable as my Glocks, my XD45C or my 1911's.
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Makarov - VERY low cost, ammo is cheap and you can get a few for spare parts in the future. Its a very good choice. (200 for pistol)
Used Glock 9mm - This is a lifetime pistol, parts abound EVERYWHERE, realibilty is extreme (100,000 round weapon with care) and there is little you can do to really hurt it. (250-400 for pistol)
Sig P225 - cost a little more, parts aren't as readily available as the others, but you get sig quality, a VERY nice pistol for about 1/2 the cost of a new one.(300-450 for pistol)
Rock Island 1911 - 1911 type pistol, parts galore (this is the Chevy of guns). I dare you find a part NOT available. People have been working on this type of pistol for DECADES. Books exist, cd's exist, houses that modify 1911's EXCLUSIVELY exist for your pleasure.... Ammo is a non-issue. Anyways good luck and don't work too hard. (350-500 for pistol)
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Used Glock 9mm - This is a lifetime pistol, parts abound EVERYWHERE, realibilty is extreme (100,000 round weapon with care) and there is little you can do to really hurt it. (250-400 for pistol)
Sig P225 - cost a little more, parts aren't as readily available as the others, but you get sig quality, a VERY nice pistol for about 1/2 the cost of a new one.(300-450 for pistol)
Rock Island 1911 - 1911 type pistol, parts galore (this is the Chevy of guns). I dare you find a part NOT available. People have been working on this type of pistol for DECADES. Books exist, cd's exist, houses that modify 1911's EXCLUSIVELY exist for your pleasure.... Ammo is a non-issue. Anyways good luck and don't work too hard. (350-500 for pistol)
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Hi-Point
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IMHO Hi-Point is the only thing that really fits that description.
They did not say they wanted an investment or collectors item. Nor did they ask for an average/mid-ranged priced firearm.
If price is one of the main considerations. I would not get the .380 as ammo is more expensive than 9mm. The 9mm would be the most cost effective in ".380 on up"...
Remember, the poster stated:
IMHO Hi-Point is the only thing that really fits that description.
They did not say they wanted an investment or collectors item. Nor did they ask for an average/mid-ranged priced firearm.
If price is one of the main considerations. I would not get the .380 as ammo is more expensive than 9mm. The 9mm would be the most cost effective in ".380 on up"...
pinetree64
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Bersa 380 or CZ-82 9mm Mak.
yhtomit
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I got a good deal (search on my username for the longer, more boring version 
) on a Cz-75BD earlier this month; $375 (before taxes) for a brand new one. That's not "cheap" (at least not to this indebted student), but it's pretty darn OK to get the gun that Jeff Cooper called "the best double action autoloader available."
So far I've heard nothing but good things about the Stoeger Cougar, too, which you should be able to find (in the U.S., that is) for $350 or less. It's basically a rebadged Beretta, made on machines which Beretta shipped to its (quite respectable) Turkish subsidiary.
And as others have said, Ruger is well up there -- decently priced, high-quality. They tend toward chunkiness, but the SR9 is really quite elegantly shaped (IMO) and I saw them on special two weeks ago for just under $350.
I might one day join the ranks of people who've buught Hi-Point guns out of curiosity -- a Hi-Point .45 pistol and reloaded ammo is probably the dirt-cheapest way to shoot .45
timothy
) on a Cz-75BD earlier this month; $375 (before taxes) for a brand new one. That's not "cheap" (at least not to this indebted student), but it's pretty darn OK to get the gun that Jeff Cooper called "the best double action autoloader available."So far I've heard nothing but good things about the Stoeger Cougar, too, which you should be able to find (in the U.S., that is) for $350 or less. It's basically a rebadged Beretta, made on machines which Beretta shipped to its (quite respectable) Turkish subsidiary.
And as others have said, Ruger is well up there -- decently priced, high-quality. They tend toward chunkiness, but the SR9 is really quite elegantly shaped (IMO) and I saw them on special two weeks ago for just under $350.
I might one day join the ranks of people who've buught Hi-Point guns out of curiosity -- a Hi-Point .45 pistol and reloaded ammo is probably the dirt-cheapest way to shoot .45
timothy
Guitargod1985
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+1 for the P90. I don't own any other Rugers, so I can't comment on Ruger as a whole, but the P90 is fantastic.
Deputy25
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Sig P6/225. 259.00 a copy from a bunch of different dealers. I have one, my daughter has one. Excellent buy.
Papaster
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Look for a used P6/P225 (Sig); very reliable pistol & they're available for $325 @ Bud's Gun Shop. http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/778/products_id/411534870
I like Teapot's comments. Like I said, I paid $89 for my Tok, a Norinco Model 213 in 9mm Luger. That was 15 years ago. Since then I've put more than 55,000 rounds through the pistol with no problems whatsoever. It is still going strong. I think that qualifies as both cheap and reliable. I'm not sure that it could be beaten for the "Cheap and Reliable" title.
Spyvie
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One more vote for Ruger's P series...
You can find cheaper guns, and you can find nicer shooting/handling guns, but there is no more reliable semi-auto pistol at any price, period.
You can find cheaper guns, and you can find nicer shooting/handling guns, but there is no more reliable semi-auto pistol at any price, period.
makarovnik
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Polish P64 or Hungarian PA-63. Stiff double action triggers but reliable and beautiful. Add a wolff spring kit to improve double action and reduce recoil. True Makarovs cost a little more.
The Hi-Point are also good but I wouldn't carry one with a round in the chamber.
The Hi-Point are also good but I wouldn't carry one with a round in the chamber.
JHansenAK47
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Ruger, Bersa, Makarov, CZ 82, charter and the various police trade ins.
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