Quantcast
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Cheap Bolt-Action battle?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Panzercat, May 14, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Panzercat

    Panzercat Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    Messages:
    971
    For some inexplicable reason, I've been bitten buy a bolt-action bug and now find it nessisary to acquire an entry level long gun to send lead down range at high speeds across lengthy distances. My experience in the arena of bolt actions is, however minimal and there are enough options to make my head explode; which is where I hope you'll come in. Can you recommend a decent budget bolt action rifle in the $300-400 of superior value an accuracy? Yes, I know I'm asking a lot in the price range, but it doesn't seem overly impossible. This rifle should be capable out to 500y if not longer*

    Two have caught my eye so far and have thus far received fairly decent reviews. The first is the Ruger American Rifle. While they're not my absolute favorite company, I see only good things about this rifle and it can be had in the $350 range. The second is a Mossberg 4x4. It's easy on the eyes (my eyes, at least) and has a decent amount of value at a rock bottom price. Most of the reviews seem solid enough to boot.

    That's my anemically short list at the moment. Anything else I should be considering and why?

    *Yes, shooter skill not withstanding, not available in all 48 states, batteries not included and this is not a caliber wars discussion.
     
  2. Shadow 7D

    Shadow 7D Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2008
    Messages:
    7,005
    Location:
    Frozen North
    I'll put my $120 swede 96 (its bubba light in a aftermarket stock) against any of them...
    for a little bit more, you could have got the savage, it's no frills, just accuracy.
     
    Last edited: May 14, 2012
  3. Cal-gun Fan

    Cal-gun Fan Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2010
    Messages:
    1,164
    Location:
    Utah/California
  4. Jim NE

    Jim NE Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2011
    Messages:
    1,409
    I wish I had a Enfield .303 again. I have no idea what a really good one costs now. Beware, though. There are a whole lot of worn out ones out there, I believe.

    I did see a BSA version of one of these a few months ago at the LGS. Seemed lighter and newer (and maybe not as good quality?) as the one I used to have, but it looked in good shape and didn't cost much. Could very well have been a non original stock.

    Bolt action with 10 rounds is cool.
     
  5. SANDRAT

    SANDRAT Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2012
    Messages:
    16
    Location:
    Kenai,Alaska
    Buy a Savage.It is something you can fix up little by little as there is an entire aftermarket industry built around Remington and Savage,not so much with other makers.The nice thing about the Savage is you can even re-barrel it yourself.
     
  6. Skyshot

    Skyshot Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2011
    Messages:
    936
    Location:
    Tn.
    Savage is a do-it yourself rifle, "YOU" can do any upgrade as your budget permits. Oh ya, they shoot pretty dang good also.
     
  7. Panzercat

    Panzercat Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    Messages:
    971
    I knew Savage was going to come up... Any particular model I should be looking at?
     
  8. 303tom

    303tom member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2011
    Messages:
    4,059
    Location:
    Missouri
    Savage...............Enfield.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2013
  9. Hunterdad

    Hunterdad Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    Messages:
    1,873
    Location:
    Syracuse, NY
    I'll vote for the Marlin X Series.
     
  10. SlowFuse

    SlowFuse Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2011
    Messages:
    1,054
    Location:
    Heart of Dixie
    You've gotten some good suggestions so far. If you're wanting to dabble in aftermarket accessories as you have time/money to do so I'd go with Savage. If you're planning on leaving it as is, I'd check out the Weatherby Vanguards.
     
  11. hardluk1

    hardluk1 member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2009
    Messages:
    4,405
    Location:
    nc mountains
    Savage /steven 200 or savage edge. Both can be bought at your botom end price. You can allway ad a Rifle Basix SAV-1 tigger kit for a trigger the accu trigger can't match.
     
  12. mcdonl

    mcdonl Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2008
    Messages:
    3,228
    Location:
    Southern Maine
    I am interested in the model of savage too... I have an Axis, 340 Bolt (30-30) and a Mark II .22 but I know there is a better entry level model than the Axis.
     
  13. tacdad

    tacdad Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2011
    Messages:
    65
    Location:
    Central PA
    Stevens 200. I have 2 of them. Both shoot sub moa at 100 yards and I just shot this group with my stevens 200 in 223 at 200 yards last week with factory ammo. [​IMG]
     
  14. 451 Detonics

    451 Detonics Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2011
    Messages:
    2,442
    Location:
    Indiana
    Have you considered a Mossberg MPV? A bit higher than some of the other inexpensive rifles it has the advantage of using AR magazines...from the 5 rounders up to a Beta if you want to go that far...lol.

    I am getting better than average accuracy out of mine and it has great ergonomics. Worth considering.
     
  15. Smith357

    Smith357 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2005
    Messages:
    1,024
    Location:
    Columbus, Ohio
    Hit the used rifle racks, you will see a lot of nice inexpensive rifles looking for a good home.

    This old .30-06 Winchester M70 was $450 but it came with a 3x9 Leupold too. Better quality than any new budget brand.
    [​IMG]
     
  16. CountryUgly

    CountryUgly Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2011
    Messages:
    613
    Location:
    The Dirty South
    You can find used Savage 110's all day long in your price range. Personally I love them. 111's are great too. All of mine were manufactured after 2000 but before they brought out the accu trigger and all are DN's accurate. If you don't mind recoil get a .300 win mag Stevens it's just the less expensive version of Savage and it'll do all you want or better yet get the Stevens in .270 and save your shoulder and 500 yards will still be a chip shot for the gun if YOU CAN make hits at that range. Don't forget to find a round your gun likes before trying the uber long shots or you will just aggravate yourself. Now that I'm off my Savage soap box I've also seen some good groups out of the Marlin XL7 but the gun was made before the whole Remlin deal and I can't account for their performance after that. If you can find a first or second year production XL7 it should be a shooter.
     
  17. jogar80

    jogar80 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2009
    Messages:
    564
    Location:
    Brownsville, Tx
    Stevens 200.
     
  18. jmr40

    jmr40 Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2007
    Messages:
    10,097
    Location:
    Georgia
    The Mossberg and Remington 710/770 are really the only 2 bolt actions I'd say "Never Buy". It is not that they are going to fall apart or be horribly inaccurate, but because for about the price of 2 boxes of ammo you can get a gun 2X-3X better.

    I think the Ruger has potential, but am withholding recommendations until more people actually buy and use them. The Marlin XS series get good comments and I like the ones I've held. The TC Venture may well be the best of the budget guns, but selling at about $450 are on the high end of a budget gun.

    Either the Vanguard or Howa get my vote for the most gun for the money of the ones I've owned. Savage and Stevens will get lots of praise, but I've owned several and all left me disappointed in both accuracy and quality. My brother recently bought a Stevens 200 in 243 that is mediocre at best.
     
  19. Panzercat

    Panzercat Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2010
    Messages:
    971
    The MVP does look nice, but at the risk of instigating a caliber crusade, no. Looking for something in the .300ish range.
    Alright, So Savage is almost unanimous which was not surprising, but actual models to research helps. Choices choices.

    Thanks all :)
     
  20. greyling22

    greyling22 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2007
    Messages:
    4,341
    Location:
    East Texas
    in no particular order:
    savage axis/edge
    ruger american
    marlin xl7
    stevens 200
    used savage 110
    howa 1500 (cdnn, way less than 400)


    is weatherby still clearing out the mk V's at cabelas?
     
  21. NELSONs02

    NELSONs02 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2008
    Messages:
    340
    In your mind, what is superior accuracy @ 500 yards? Sporter profile barrels will heat up very quick and aren't suitable for an afternoon of target shooting, especially when the steel is lower quality.

    Look for a used rifle with some sort of heavy profile barrel. Remington or Savage would be ideal and make sure you mount up at least a 10x optic.

    long range shooting is expensive and addictive and there's a ton of info you'll need to learn about rifles, ammunition/ballistics and optics if you want to start shooting at "500y if not longer"
     
  22. goon

    goon Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2003
    Messages:
    7,251
    I agree on the advice to hit the used racks - if you're lucky and persistent sometimes you can find a pretty sweet deal on a quality used rifle.
    Also, I've seen very lightly used Savages with decent scopes for around $300 used. Like others, I've shot some very good groups with the Savage rifles I owned.
     
  23. MilsurpShooter

    MilsurpShooter Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2005
    Messages:
    1,541
    Location:
    Under a rock somewhere
    I'm always a fan of the old school stuff so I'll throw a vote in for the K31 surplus rifle. Cheap surplus ammo is still around and is accurate as all heck, and it's a cool little rifle that's accurate in of itself. Straight pull bolt might disqualify it but I had to throw her out there.
     
  24. mortablunt

    mortablunt Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2011
    Messages:
    2,590
    Location:
    Deutschland
    Finnish Mostin-Nagant 91/30
     
  25. Ignition Override

    Ignition Override Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2007
    Messages:
    5,212
    Location:
    The Mid-South.
    Lots of milsurp guys claim that the K-31 might be the best.

    You might find an Enfield #4/Mk. 1 which meets your demands (those with 4 or 5-groove rifling can do well for BT bullets), but the K-31 has a good bit more power.

    Milsurpshooter: would Enfield #4s with nice rifling normally do well at 500 yards? Mine are only used at 50-100 yards, and seldom against paper targets. Concrete blocks painted with orange spots are much more fun.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page