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From the Chicago Tribune (http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/women/):

Weapons of mass possession

As gun ownership among women grows, a faceoff heats up between those
on opposite sides of the firearms issue


By Lorna Collier
Special to the Tribune

May 5, 2004

Kelly Champlin grew up so opposed to guns that when her new husband, a
Marine, wanted to bring a shotgun into their home, she told him, "Over my
dead body."

But after her husband brought her to a shooting range, Champlin changed her
mind. She found she loved shooting. "I was hooked," she says.

Today, Champlin, 34, is a competitive shooter, a certified instructor and
president of the overwhelmingly male Pine Tree Pistol Club in Rockford,
where she teaches gun safety and skills, including "Ladies Only" classes,
begun three years ago in response to demand by local women. She and her
husband plan to give their 5-year-old son his own child-size rifle this
summer.

Champlin is one of an estimated 11 million to 17 million women in America
who own guns--a number that could be on the rise, as more women than ever
are taking up target shooting and hunting.

The National Rifle Association's target-shooting classes for women "have
been skyrocketing" in popularity, according to Stephanie Henson, manager of
the NRA's women's programs department. The number of women attending clinics
from 2000 to 2003 soared 788 percent, to 4,403 from 496, while the number of
clinics offered jumped 1,008 percent to 144 in 2003 from 13 in 2000.

In January 2003, the NRA began publishing a magazine for women, Women's
Outlook, which has been growing in circulation 15 to 22 percent each month,
says spokeswoman Kelly Hobbs. The magazine has 50,000 current subscribers.
The NRA doesn't track the gender of its 4 million members, Hobbs says.

This is happening as organizers get ready to hold the second Million Mom
March on Mother's Day in Washington D.C. The rally's purpose is to promote
gun-control legisltion, especially the assault-weapons ban, which is set to
expire in September.

A counterdemonstration in Washington on the same day is being organized by
the Second Amendment Sisters, a 5-year-old group with about 10,000 members
that opposes gun control.

Bill Jenkins, 46, of Northfield, is an author and frequent speaker on gun
issues. His 16-year-old son was fatally shot during a fast-food robbery in
1997. Jenkins will be speaking at the Million Mom March along with his wife,
Jennifer Bishop-Jenkins, whose pregnant sister and brother-in-law were
fatally shot Winnetka in 1990. The couple met at a conference for families
of murder victims.

Jenkins says that the rising interest in guns among women is the result of
manipulation by the gun industry, which has seen sales lag among men.

"The gun industry has tried to increase market share among women, because
they are desperately underrepresented in that population," he says. "It has
tried to increase fear among women, and has been making products that appeal
to women, making firearms lighter and more manageable, making designer guns
that are literally cute."

"It's propaganda," agrees Rose Woods, 47, executive director of Victims of
Violence, a Chicago-based support service for families and friends of
homicide victims. Woods' 16-year-old son, Nick Jaramillo, was killed in a
restaurant robbery in Chicago in 1996.

"They're using the old-boy mentality that women can't think on their own,
but ... we understand too much," says Woods, an organizer of the first
Million Mom March who will be attending this year's rally. "A gun is not a
security blanket. I wouldn't want it in my home, even locked up. Kids can
find it, kids can play with it. We're not living in Lone Ranger times."

Pro-gun groups

But even the National Sporting Goods Association says more women are
participating in target shooting and hunting. Gun manufacturers since the
mid-1980s have been designing lighter firearms for women, while gun-toting
purses and fanny packs are also on the market. With the advent of the
Internet, women's pro-gun groups--with names like the Second Amendment
Sisters, Armed Females of America, Liberty Belles and Women Against Gun
Control--have gained steam.

Many see women arming themselves as a sign of strength, self-determination,
even of feminism.

In her new book "Blown Away: American Women and Guns" (Pocket Books),
journalist Caitlin Kelly--herself a crime victim--points out that violence
against women remains a pervasive problem, affecting about 1 in 3 American
women in their lifetimes.

"Women living alone may say [having a gun] is my best choice; that's the
decision they've made to protect their families," says Kelly, 46, who does
not own a gun. "Power, to me, is not just, `I can be a lawyer or a doctor or
get into MBA school.' In the most profound sense, I want to feel safe in the
morning. To me, that's really a feminist issue."

Carol Oyster, psychology professor at the University of Wisconsin in
LaCrosse, co-wrote a book in 2000 called "Gun Women: Feminism and Firearms
in Contemporary America" (New York University Press). Oyster is a hunter,
NRA member and feminist.

"Feminism is about choice. To me, there's no difference in making an
informed decision about firearms or reproductive rights," says Oyster, who,
along with her 17-year-old daughter, Katherine, teaches hunting safety. "My
daughter talks to her peers about it as a feminist thing to do. In our
hunter-education classes, we are seeing more and more girls all the time, 12
years old even, girls and moms together."

"I don't think a woman should have to depend on a man to protect her. He
can't be there 24/7," says Linda Ward, 57, a gun-owning retiree in Evergreen
Park. "There are a lot of single women now. If the bad guy comes at you, you
can't just tell him, `Play nice.'"

Peggy Tartaro, executive editor of Women & Guns magazine, says the last 20
to 25 years have seen "a sea change" in women's attitudes about guns,
brought about by such societal shifts as the rise in single-parent
households and the women's movement.

Disputing both sides

But are women truly safer if they arm themselves, or are they trading a
hypothetical danger for a certain one?

Studies exist to bolster both sides, some claiming guns can stave off
attacks and reduce crime, others alleging guns can be more harmful in the
home than not having them, with disputes over which studies are reliable.

What is not in dispute is the number of annual gun-related deaths in the
United States, which in 2001 was 29,573, according to the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention.

A little more than half the deaths were suicides (16,869); a small fraction
were accidents (802); and homicides (11,348) accounted for the bulk of the
rest, according to the CDC's National Center for Injury Prevention and
Control. (There were also 323 shootings by law enforcement and 231 that were
unclassified.)

Even gun-owning women don't believe merely possessing a firearm provides
fail-safe protection against criminals.

Jillian Galas, 25, a Waukegan computer consultant, owns about 15 guns and is
the Illinois state coordinator for the Second Amendment Sisters,
representing about 50 to 60 women in Illinois. She has been shooting since
age 5 but learned from a self-defense program in Texas that her guns might
not necessarily save her in the event of attack, especially against a
determined assailant.

Champlin warns against relying on a gun without proper training.

To author Kelly, some gun dangers are "specific and individual"--if there
are people in the home with substance abuse or emotional problems, such as
poor impulse control or depression, there should not be firearms in the
home.

But in a nation where women are frequently victims of violent crimes at the
hands of men in their lives, Kelly says, "I feel strongly that a woman who
is prepared to shoot to kill, who is well-trained in the use of her weapon
under stress--it's her choice to make."

Rallies, for and against

On Sunday, the second Million Mom March to protest gun violence will be held
in Washington, D.C., at the front of the U.S. Capitol. The first march took
place in 2000, with an estimated 750,000 women attending.

This year's rally is called the Mother's Day March to Halt the Assault, and
kicks off a campaign to renew and strengthen the assault-weapons ban, which
expires in September, says Jonathan Lackland, Great Lakes regional director
for the Brady Campaign Against Gun Violence United With the Million Mom
March.

Meanwhile, the Second Amendment Sisters, an Internet-based group with
approximately 10,000 members, will be holding a counterdemonstration at
Washington's Freedom Plaza. During the first Million Mom March, the Second
Amendment Sisters drew about 4,500 people to its counterrally.

More information about the two rallies can be found at: and
www.2asisters.org/SAFER/index.html.
 
"His 16-year-old son was fatally shot during a fast-food robbery in
1997."

i bet he would be alive if he or someone else in the restaurant had a gun.
 
It seems like the author of the article actually makes an effort to cover both sides of the issue. That's pretty rare these days.
 
His 16-year-old son was fatally shot during a fast-food robbery
Woods' 16-year-old son, Nick Jaramillo, was killed ...
Jennifer Bishop-Jenkins, whose pregnant sister and brother-in-law were fatally shot
AMAZING ...being a victim, or a parent of a victim somehow makes one an expert. These folks should put thier efforts into "How to be a better victim" seminars and stop pretending they know what is best for the rest of us.
 
There is a poll off to the side also:

Are you a woman who owns a gun?

38.4%
Yes (325 responses)

41.7%
No (353 responses)

20.0%
I would if I could (169 responses)

847 total responses
 
Good article.

I wish more women would arm themselves in my country, and in the rest of the world... while foiling violent crime against them is the primary point, maybe the common knowledge that women are likely-armed will also foster a little extra day-to-day respect from the menfolk.
 
good balanced article from the Chicago Tribune of all sources.

The only thing that got me was
with an estimated 750,000 women attending.

Ummm, BS? anyone got any support for that statement?

atek3
 
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Jenkins says that the rising interest in guns among women is the result of manipulation by the gun industry...
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Heaven knows the cute little ladies aren't bright enough to make up their minds unless they're manipulated, right?>>>>>>>>



maybe thats how the MMM gets its members ......by manipulating them:D
 
The gun industry has been making products that appeal specially to women? Huh? Other that the LadySmith, what gun mfgr has targeted a product at women?

That's what they _should_ be doing, but I'm not seeing it...
 
And still the ever-present accusation that the "Gun Industry" is manipulating women (because otherwise, we all know women would do the "right" thing, so it MUST be manipulation) by "increasing women's fears and playing on them."

Now, I ask you: If a woman were not interested in firearms already for whatever reason, where would she see any kind of communication or propaganda from the "Gun Industry?" Are gun makers advertising in Cosmopolitan and Jane now? Are they running commercials on Lifetime? Is Bushmaster dropping 2 million to run a commercial during the last episode of Friends?

Of course not. Ya gotta read an NRA publication, or gun rags, or THR, or attend a match, or whatever.

Women are seeking out firearms because, despite these people's best efforts, some things are just self-evident. Armed people are harder targets than unarmed people. Period.
 
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"...and has been making products that appeal
to women, making firearms lighter and more manageable, making designer guns
that are literally cute."
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At the first gunshow that I took my lady to, we happened across a table where a dealer was showing off a large array of Kel-Teks - which she has tried and likes very much because of their concealability, small grip size (smaller hands), and modest power (I'm working on that one :D ). She perused the table, trying on a couple, and the dealer commented on their quality-to-price ratio. Off-handedly, she replied, "And they're cute!" ...well... a look of half fear and half anger popped onto the guy's face. Visibly restrining himself, he calmy and politely replied "They are very good tools, miss -- and very effective at being what they are made to be."

Of course she knew this, but the dealer probably thought she was just admiring them for their [ack] cuteness! After explaining to the dealer that she admired his 'tools' for other, more functional reasons, we moved on to the rest of the show. The incident made me think, though. If some people can think that their rifle, shotgun, etc. is beautiful because of mechanics, form, engravings, or whatever other reason, why can't someone think that a gun is... er... well, cute?

-- just my 2/100 of a reserve note.
shoot well,
sch40
 
"The gun industry has tried to increase market share among women, . . . making products that appeal to women, . . . making designer guns that are literally cute."
Good grief, these dastardly businesses stand accused of MAKING PRODUCTS PEOPLE LIKE! How DARE they!

Notice the condescending tone . . . I guess women are too dumb to think for themselves and are easily manipulated into buying things they like. :confused:

Hmmm . . . it that were case, we could lobby the reloading equipment manufacturers to make "cute" presses and case trimmers, and then run an advertising campaign that the workout you get loading ammo fights cellulite as it shapes and tones . . .

Woman: "Honey, will you please go out and shoot up some ammo? At least a few hundred round tonight? I need my exercise, and I'm fresh out of empty brass."

Man: "Sure dear, whatever you say." :evil:
 
Not all victims families are anti

20yrs ago my brother in law was shot and killed in NYC,thanks to obeying the law,he was unarmed when his armed killer came for him.
 
I'm resurrecting this old thread vs starting a new one. Did anyone ever read this book by Kelly? I didn't see any reviews. Found it by accident today and was amazed I have never heard of it. From the looks of it and the reviews, appears she actually attempts a balanced view. Probably why the media ignored it? The site:

http://www.blownawaythebook.com/reviews/

I will put that one on my recommended reading list for women if someone here can confirm it's not just some anti gun hit piece hiding as real journalism...
 
Damn liberals! I dont get it.

Myself, being a gun nut and a lefty, have a problem... always caught in the middle.

A liberal will tell you that prohibition doesnt work. Alcohol, Drugs, Prostitution, etc. Legalize it they say, and crimes related to it will drop.

Oh but wait, prohibition on guns is the only way to go! It contradicts every other piece of their platform.

%50 of gun deaths are suicides! They see this as a reason for people not to own guns... as a real progressive, I see it as a call for better health and mental care for the people.

the rest is homicides!
How much of that is gang violence where both parties are the aggressor? An even smaller part of it is foks caught in the crossfire, wrong place... wrong time. The remainder are true victims.
As progressives, this is an indicator of socio-econimic distress. How many of these people would be out slingin dope and shooting up their neighborhoods if they had a viable future? A chance to get a decent education and the knowledge that they would be able to use to get ahead in life?

And of course there is a small percentage of those who are just plain ol' bad people... and you cant stop them from victimizing people short of killing them.

So the problems of crime and violence are a product of society... not proliferation of guns. But they fail to see it, or they ignore it.


Which leads to the question, what could their motives really be?
 
I cannot think of too many guns out there marketed specifically for the ladies that would draw so much attention from the media. But heck, they tend to bloat issues to begin with anyway.

I guess the Lady Smith and the little pink Cricket rifles are the supposed contenders. I dunno about anyone else but when my mom picked her CCW pistol she picked a BodyGuard S&W 38spl. over the Lady Smith model. She preferred the service grips over the rubber grips on the BodyGuard, however, so she ordered the service grip panels straight from S&W. Carries it with her all the time. :)
 
It's an old thread and perhaps I am too scrutinizing. The language is laced with "anti-ness".
Champlin is one of an estimated 11 million to 17 million women in America
who own guns--a number that could be on the rise, as more women than ever
are taking up target shooting and hunting.
Why are women who own guns marginalized to target shooters and hunters? I would speculate there are more women who own a personal defense weapon than who only target shoot or hunt.

Fool said:
We're not living in Lone Ranger times.
Really? When were Lone Ranger times? Never, because the Lone Ranger was a made-up fairy tale TV show! Hold on while I strap on my six-guns and bandit mask.
 
Good afternoon friends
Freind Prophet wrote:
I guess the Lady Smith and the little pink Cricket rifles are the supposed contenders. I dunno about anyone else but when my mom picked her CCW pistol she picked a BodyGuard S&W 38spl. over the Lady Smith model. She preferred the service grips over the rubber grips on the BodyGuard, however, so she ordered the service grip panels straight from S&W. Carries it with her all the time.
My wife selected a Browning HiPower. She said it just feels right. I believe her. She shoots it very well.
 
a small percentage of those who are just plain ol' bad people
It's not that small, in my experiance.
That's why we need guns, criminals aren't content to just take your money and leave you unharmed.
 
"A gun is not a
security blanket. I wouldn't want it in my home, even locked up. Kids can
find it, kids can play with it. We're not living in Lone Ranger times."

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I've got a problem with this whole opinion. I live and have grown up in a house where guns are quite visible and accessible--what good is a locked-up gun when you need it NOW? I live in the country, so break in's aren't common, but we've had bears in the yard and there's always gonna be that occasional predator after the animals--late at night when you're trying to sleep. I grew up knowing better than to mess with the guns. I was also told that if I ever went to anybody's house and they wanted to show me a gun or something to leave. I'm 19 and have survived perfectly okay. I've grown up with gun safety and hold a respect for firearms--and I'm not the only one around here like that; heck, I'm not even the only one in my family like that--I'm the youngest in a line of 7....

and, I'm sorry, but on those rare nights when I'm home alone, I feel pretty dang secure knowing I have a gun sitting by the door if somebody DOES decide to try something while everybody else is out--like I said, I live in the country and I don't have a bunch of neighbors that will come if I scream...but I do have firepower--and I've been told that I'm a crack-shot

other than ranting: this was a pretty interesting article. It's nice to know that more women are embracing firearms. Maybe there won't as many two-legged predators out there if they think their prey might turn the tables on 'em.
 
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