Chinese SKS Price
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I seen one today at a shop that seemed to be in pretty decent shape withno bayonet and it was the chinese model with a removable mag for $349.99. I came accross one about a month ago for $250 at a gun show with a dealer i had a long long conversation with and he bumped it dow from 325 to 250 but i diddnt need another rifle at the time.
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Smoke
Hope this helps,
Smoke
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I saw several at the gun show this weekend, dealers wanted more but most guys were asking 250-300 depending.
Seattle206
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what the heck? $250 norinco sks's still around? i bought mine for that price back in august!
I just paid $299 for a 1959 Norinco with all matching serial numbers in very good to excellent condition. The only down side was that the ten round fixed mag had been replaced by a detachable 30 round mag. I have replaced the ten round fixded mag, so I suppose the gun cost me $320.
On the plus side, I have been told that the original owner removed the blade bayonet, a dastardly illegal act, so I have righted his wrong by affixing the blade bayonet to the gun. Fortunately no further crimes had been commited in the form of removing the lug, and it was still threaded for the screw.
I felt that $300 was fair for the gun, these days, although I paid $70 for my first Norinco many moons ago.
On the plus side, I have been told that the original owner removed the blade bayonet, a dastardly illegal act, so I have righted his wrong by affixing the blade bayonet to the gun. Fortunately no further crimes had been commited in the form of removing the lug, and it was still threaded for the screw.
I felt that $300 was fair for the gun, these days, although I paid $70 for my first Norinco many moons ago.
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Are you being sarcastic on the bayonet removal thing or what?
Does all the 922r nonsense prohibit one from taking the bayonet off of an SKS and grinding off the remaining bits?
I am sort of looking at SKSs and I would probably take off the bayonet.
Are you talking about the law really? Or are you a mil-surp purist (and that's a good thing) and against sporterizing mil-surps in general?
For what it is worth, I would never sporterize something like a 1903, 1917 or an Enfield or even a nice 98K. I would considere an SKS...perhaps...if the numbers didn't match or whatever.
Are you being sarcastic on the bayonet removal thing or what?
Does all the 922r nonsense prohibit one from taking the bayonet off of an SKS and grinding off the remaining bits?
I am sort of looking at SKSs and I would probably take off the bayonet.
Are you talking about the law really? Or are you a mil-surp purist (and that's a good thing) and against sporterizing mil-surps in general?
For what it is worth, I would never sporterize something like a 1903, 1917 or an Enfield or even a nice 98K. I would considere an SKS...perhaps...if the numbers didn't match or whatever.
Hey Hoosier (my daughter goes to IU) I am being half sarcastic about the bayonet. Discussions on the legality of the bayonet result in some interesting situations, especially as to the Chinese ones. It seems that few of the Chinese made it here with bayonets, those bayonets banned after a short time thanks to George Bush, Sr., and not Clinton, who is usually blamed. After a time the Norincos were imported without the bayonet with the lug often ground down. If the lug was still there the threads on the one half were also often removed. So, some have argued that it became illegal to re-install the bayonet, I think without 922r compliance, which starts the part count game. And, with any SKS with a bayonet it became illegal to remove the bayonet, or arguably so, but I'm not sure whether this was true with only the Chinese, Russians, or all of them. The whole darned thing is so dang confusing. Probably the best thing to do is make the rifle 922r compliant and be done with it. Heck, I'm an attorney and I have weighed in on these laws researching them trying to make sense of them, and they make my head hurt. In 25 years in the legal profession I have never seen such an utterly stupid body of laws, rules and regualtions. They are arbitrary, ambiguous and often contrary, and that is an optimistic outlook. But, we have to deal with it.
The way that I see it, if you take the bayonet off I think that any federal prosecutor is going to have a very hard time proving that a bayonet was ever on the rifle, at least when it came into your possession. I'd also venture a guess that there are zero federal prosecutors who are going to give a rat's ass whether you take your bayonet off, if it even is a concern under some convoluted reading of the law(s). That is, unless you have used your SKS to rob a bank and a BATFE specialist has inspected your SKS and has determined that it is not in compliance. In that case the criminal count will be added to the long list of others, and in the case of a plea bargain it will be one of the bootstrap counts that will be negotiated away still leaving you in a world of hurt and headed to the graybar hotel where you will become someone's girlfriend. But, taking off a bayonet, that alone, will almost cetainly (unless you are boinking a BATFE agent's wife or something) never result in you being charged.
Pesonally, I like the bayonet on. Zombies hate bayonets, no to mention vampires.
As to being a milsurp purist, well, I am sort, but not to any extremes. I have nothing against someone taking an SKS and sporterizing it or going the tactical route, maybe with a TAPCO stock as I one did with a Yugo. As far as I was concerned the rifle was already Bubba'd by the Yugoslavs with all of that grenade launcher crap. On the other hand, if someone was to take the vet bringback Type 99 Arisaka (with mum inact) that I just put on layaway, and Bubba it, I would want to club them over the head with it. Same with a matched non-Russian Capture K98. I like my Milsurps to be in as close to original condition as possible so that I can as closely as possible experience what those fighting men experienced when they depended on that weapon for their lives. That's to say to experience what they experienced without someone shooting at my 50 year old arse.
I will protect the wood on my milsurps, if need be, but I don't have to use BLO or real 100% tung oil, and will often use Watco's Danish Oil Finish for a quicker drying time, especially on a rifle like a Russian Capture. On the other hand, if it was a matched bringback K98 you can bet your life that I would only use BLO. No new finish will touch my Arisaka, and even though the shellac finish on my 1959 Norinco is just a bit uneven, it will stay as is. The bayonet is consistent with how the rifle was made and used. I just picked up a Savage Enfield No.1 MK4* that needs nothing whatsoever so nothing will be done. When I picked up an Ishapore Enfield that black paint had to come off, exposing a wonderful Parkerized finish underneath. It just depends on the weapon itself, some to remain pristine, while there is a broad spectrum for others, from nearly pristine all the way to Bubba.
I agree with you that an SKS is a candidate for Bubba, but not all of them.
The way that I see it, if you take the bayonet off I think that any federal prosecutor is going to have a very hard time proving that a bayonet was ever on the rifle, at least when it came into your possession. I'd also venture a guess that there are zero federal prosecutors who are going to give a rat's ass whether you take your bayonet off, if it even is a concern under some convoluted reading of the law(s). That is, unless you have used your SKS to rob a bank and a BATFE specialist has inspected your SKS and has determined that it is not in compliance. In that case the criminal count will be added to the long list of others, and in the case of a plea bargain it will be one of the bootstrap counts that will be negotiated away still leaving you in a world of hurt and headed to the graybar hotel where you will become someone's girlfriend. But, taking off a bayonet, that alone, will almost cetainly (unless you are boinking a BATFE agent's wife or something) never result in you being charged.
Pesonally, I like the bayonet on. Zombies hate bayonets, no to mention vampires.
As to being a milsurp purist, well, I am sort, but not to any extremes. I have nothing against someone taking an SKS and sporterizing it or going the tactical route, maybe with a TAPCO stock as I one did with a Yugo. As far as I was concerned the rifle was already Bubba'd by the Yugoslavs with all of that grenade launcher crap. On the other hand, if someone was to take the vet bringback Type 99 Arisaka (with mum inact) that I just put on layaway, and Bubba it, I would want to club them over the head with it. Same with a matched non-Russian Capture K98. I like my Milsurps to be in as close to original condition as possible so that I can as closely as possible experience what those fighting men experienced when they depended on that weapon for their lives. That's to say to experience what they experienced without someone shooting at my 50 year old arse.
I will protect the wood on my milsurps, if need be, but I don't have to use BLO or real 100% tung oil, and will often use Watco's Danish Oil Finish for a quicker drying time, especially on a rifle like a Russian Capture. On the other hand, if it was a matched bringback K98 you can bet your life that I would only use BLO. No new finish will touch my Arisaka, and even though the shellac finish on my 1959 Norinco is just a bit uneven, it will stay as is. The bayonet is consistent with how the rifle was made and used. I just picked up a Savage Enfield No.1 MK4* that needs nothing whatsoever so nothing will be done. When I picked up an Ishapore Enfield that black paint had to come off, exposing a wonderful Parkerized finish underneath. It just depends on the weapon itself, some to remain pristine, while there is a broad spectrum for others, from nearly pristine all the way to Bubba.I agree with you that an SKS is a candidate for Bubba, but not all of them.
And then you have Chinese SKS that have never been able to be classified as a C&R since year of production cannot be established with any certainty as the Chinese have never released production records. The surest bet as to determining year is a Factory 296 (Triangle-26) gun, only one out of many factories. I've heard some say that Factory 296 (Triangle-26) guns are some of the most prized of the Chinese, being the first factory set up with the Russians, but I don't know about that. But, since I have a 59 Triangle-26 I'll go along with it
HoosierQ
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Man...I just wanted to make an SKS a little lighter by taking off the doggone bayonet. Who would've thought that taking a bayonet off a gun would make it less palatable to the law? Backwards at best.
At any rate, good explanation.
I too am a milsurp purist and would only consider messing with either something cheap (like a mixmaster moisin) or an already bubba'd Springfield...which I'd be tempted to return to the orginal format rather than resporterize.
At any rate, good explanation.
I too am a milsurp purist and would only consider messing with either something cheap (like a mixmaster moisin) or an already bubba'd Springfield...which I'd be tempted to return to the orginal format rather than resporterize.
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