Choosing between kits?

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whubbard

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Hornady Lock-n-Load Classic Reloading Kit
The Hornady kit would cost $259.99 but I would get 500 rounds of .308 bullets.

RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme Master Reloading Kit
The RCBS kit would cost $219.99 after a $50 Mail-in-Rebate.

Can anybody weigh in on which kit they would recommend? Also beyond this, what else would I need to purchase to start reloading .308 rounds?

  • Dies
  • Powder
  • Bullets & Casings
  • Primers
  • Case cleaner
  • Case tumbler

Many Thanks
 
caliper
case trimmer
chamfer/dsbur tool
scale if one doesn't come with the kit
a couple of reloading manuals
a couple of loading blocks
 
For Christmass in 1978 I got one of the RCBS kits. I still use it to this day. I did have to send the scale back some time in the late 80s for a rebuild but it was done for free. I have reloaded 1000s of rounds both pistol and rifle on it. Its slow but dose the job.

So I am biased. But thats the route I would go. All though the Hornaday give you a digital scale if your into that sort of thing?

WB
 
You won't go wrong with either.18yrs with the Rock Chucker no problems,this fall got the LNL-Ap great press + some of their dies good quality,best seater for non match type.
 
I think I'm going to go with the RCBS. After some research it seems more 'universally' recommended. Here is what my start-up costs appear to be:
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Little expensive, but acceptable.

Only thing I forgot to add to this list (as far as I know) is the case cleaning solvent. Also I already own a nice digital caliper. Am I missing anything? Anybody recommend I change out my selection of items?

Oh and if anybody has some extra .308 brass lying around they'd like to send me...
 
I would go with the RCBS kit,just because I have had good service from them.With the kit you listed,you will need a case trimmer,the calipers that you already have,and sooner or later,a tumbler.Of course,brass,powder,primers,and bullets.
I probably could donate a hundred once fired cases. Lightman
 
What are the foreseeable differences with 4064 and 4895?
I'm planning on mainly (ie for now) loading 168gr .308s, which it basically sounds like the 3031 was made for.
 
You will have to experiment for yourself. I have always had best accuracy with IMR 4895 with 168gr bullets.
 
For Powder I would also go with IMR 4895.

Depending on what sort of shooting your doing? I would also look at buying once fired brass. You can probubly get 500 pc for the same $60.?

If just starting out I would also concider just getting one of the hand crank case trimmers its got to be cheaper then the electric RCBS one?

Why the bullet seating die? Dose the Lee set not have one?

WB
 
I helped a friend set up his new Hornady LnL and I was quite pleased with how well it worked. I have the RCBS set up and I like it, I don't think you would go wrong with either one.

As far as powder goes, I have had really good luck with 4064 and Varget both with 165 grain bullets. Varget, 4895, and one of the Reloader powders seem to be the most popular choices. The sierra match king seems to be a very popular bullet as well.

No matter which set you get, get the others book as well. I would also recommend getting the complete hand loading book for the 308 ( I think that is what it is called, its about $9.00) It lists loads from powder, bullet, and mold makers, so you get a lot of good info for fairly cheap. it will list powder and bullet combos that Hornady and Speer do not list in their manuals. For example my Honrnady book does not list 4064 with the 165 grain bullets, but this little manual does.

Personally I have found that I really like the Hornady dies better than the RCBS dies, but I would like to try the X-Die from RCBS. It is supposed to limit the amount that a piece of brass grows. I am not unhappy with my RCBS, I just like the Hornady ones better.

One other thing I just thought of is that having the LnL feature while using a single stage press is a big bonus. While it is not a huge thing to have to unscrew a die, it is much nicer to only have to twist it to unlock it. But you pay for that as well since to really take advantage of the feature it would be best to get a set of bushings for each die set. My friend just has a set for the dies that he uses the most, and then swaps them out when he needs to use another set.

Either way I think you will like either press set up.
 
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I too have the rcbs one recent little upgrade was a lock n load conversion kit. Why just a little 10.99 bit of convienience just unscrew the threaded bushing and swap it out. Also I would consider the hornady dies. I have used Dillion, rcbs and Hornady and have found for easy of bullet seating the ergonomics of the hornady is considerably easy. Oh and bullet puller is a must. But really once you get set up. You find that you'll need more crap. Enjoy RSB
 
I've gone ahead and purchased my reloading setup. Quite pleased. Many thanks for the help.
Went with the RCBS kit + the lock n' load conversion. Lee dies. Wilson trimmer. RCBS tumbler. I've also picked up some powders (3031, 4895, Varget) to experiment with. I'm very interested to see which one and at how many grains, is the most accurate with my rifle.

An interesting note I thought you might enjoy is that I went ahead and calculated my break-even point for this reloading setup:

The initial setup came in at around $500.
Each round will cost me around $0.50 cents in parts.

Prvi Partizan Match 168gr is $0.78 a round.
Federal Gold Match 168gr is $1.70 a round.

If I wasn't reloading I would realistically be shooting an ammo like the Prvi regularly. To break even I would have to shoot 1786 rounds. Since I'm reloading I'll likely shoot more, which is fantastic, but this is still a lot of rounds to fire to pay me back for my equipment. By the time I've reloaded 1786 rounds I'm sure I will have reinvested in some other reloading equipment/gear.

The Federal Gold ammunition is hopefully closer to what I will be shooting/reloading once I've got my load figured out. Now I would never be shooting a ton of this ammo regularly, but for kicks it is good to know how many rounds I would have to shoot to break even. I would have to shoot 417 rounds. A much nicer number to see.

Bulk ammo comes in at about $0.37, so technically I could always be shooting cheaper. Oh well.

Once again, Many Thanks!
 
That's a good price on the RCBS Supreme kit. I think the Wilson case trimmer you chose is the best manual tool made. But I would have passed on the LNL conversion since it only takes 7 seconds to screw a die in. On my LNL auto progressive the bushings have been more trouble than they were worth. BTW, Cabelas also has the Universal hand primer on sale for $49.99.
 
I want to thank everyone for their guidance and help. I purchased my equipment and just finished a bench to mount it all on. I've still got a little bit of work to do organizing it and the power strip & powder measure need to be mounted but it's looking nice. Thanks Again.

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[Sorry for the cellphone picture]
 
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