Cimarron Pistolero 9mm NiB

[Tallball]

To celebrate some personal achievements, I decided to treat myself to the 9mm "range toy" handgun of my choice... within the limit of $600 OTD.

Many board members posted kind suggestions in my thread (thank you again), but it turns out I already own versions of almost all of the nice full-sized 9mm semiautos that are in my price range.

@NorthBorder suggested a 9mm revolver. I already have a small 9mm revolver and a large 9mm revolver, but not a medium-sized one. Unfortunately, there isn't a new or used medium-framed DA revolver that I know of in that price range. Fortunately, there IS a single-action revolver in that price range!

I found this SAA replica on GB for $480. With shipping and taxes and CC fee it totaled $579. My friend waived the FFL fee.

I already have a Cimarron Model P that looks a LOT like my new Pistolero and was made by Uberti. I assumed that the Pistolero would be a Uberti also, but it's a Pietta (my first). I like the brass grip frame. I've never had a handgun with a brass grip frame before, that I can recall. The wooden grips look horrible in the picture, but in real life they look like normal walnut grips. The finish is very nice. The "case coloring" looks really good, even better than my Uberti.

The action is smooth and has four clicks. The trigger is light. They're both comparable to the Uberti. The barrel looks good. The parts all look well made and fit together properly. It arrived well-lubricated.

It has a BS cylinder pin "safety". My understanding is that this can be eliminated by replacing the cylinder pin with a "normal" one. If so, that's what I'll do. The little button that you hold down to release the cylinder pin is too stiff and its travel seems kind of short. That annoys me. I'll probably replace it as well.

I prefer my 38 revolvers for CC and HD, but 38 special ammo costs about twice what 9mm does. I practice with my 2.5" 9mm Ruger SP101 a lot. It's an abomination. The shape was created to almost but not quite fit my hand no matter what grips I put on it. I finally got proper springs on it so that it functions reliably and I can pull the trigger DA with only one finger. It's good practice for my 38 snubs. After I shoot it, my S&W j-frames feel like target pistols.

The Pistolero can be my medium-sized practice revolver sometimes. Its frame is the same size as a K frame, and its grip is the same size as a K frame boot grip. The trigger and guard are in a different spot. It has a thicker cylinder. You can only shoot it single action. But between it and the SP101, I can at least get some kind of practice if there are times when 38 special ammo disappears again.

Any suggestions about the cylinder pin and release, care of brass frames, inexpensive leather holsters, and ammo that 9mm SAA replicas like would be much appreciated. I hope to have a range report before the week's over.

 

[bangswitch]

Since those guns load /extract one round at a time, does the 9mm headspace on the case mouth, so no moon clips needed?

Great-looking pistol, I love the mix of brass and color case hardened frame. I'm trying to save up enough sofa change to get something similar, but in .45 Colt, to go along with my Henry Big Boy rifle. From what I understand, the Cimarron revolvers are really nice, assembled in the US from Uberti-made parts, which makes them a bit less expensive maybe than one manufactured by Uberti.

Give us a range report when you get a chance to shoot it.

 

[Tallball]

If I understand correctly, there's a shoulder in the cylinders that stops the 9mm rounds at the case mouth. The rounds will eject one at a time out of the loading gate just like a 38 or whatever. It doesn't need moonclips.

My large 9mm handgun is actually a 6.5" Blackhawk, so I'm used to shooting 9mm out of a single-action revolver. With the big frame and long barrel and big adjustable sights, the Blackhawk is really more suitable for hunting than for close-range practice. The SAA will be a little more like shooting a 4" Model 10 or something, especially because of the small fixed sights.

TY for the noce compliments. You might not need as much couch change as you think. The 45colt and 357 magnum SAA replicas are considerably cheaper and easier to find than 9mm. Probably $400 NiB plus shipping and stuff, if you keep your eyes open.

 

[Speedo66]

When I first read brass frame, I thought you meant like the black powder revolvers where the actual frame is brass, and somewhat weaker and prone to stretching. When I got to the picture, I saw what you actually meant.

Your grip frame being brass should have no effect on strength, reminds me of my Uberti Hombre. The brass will dull down, don’t think any particular care is required.

Good luck with your new gun!

 

[Mark_Mark]

To celebrate some personal achievements, I decided to treat myself to the 9mm "range toy" handgun of my choice... within the limit of $600 OTD.

Many board members posted kind suggestions in my thread (thank you again), but it turns out I already own versions of almost all of the nice full-sized 9mm semiautos that are in my price range.

@NorthBorder suggested a 9mm revolver. I already have a small 9mm revolver and a large 9mm revolver, but not a medium-sized one. Unfortunately, there isn't a new or used medium-framed DA revolver that I know of in that price range. Fortunately, there IS a single-action revolver in that price range!

I found this SAA replica on GB for $480. With shipping and taxes and CC fee it totaled $579. My friend waived the FFL fee.

I already have a Cimarron Model P that looks a LOT like my new Pistolero and was made by Uberti. I assumed that the Pistolero would be a Uberti also, but it's a Pietta (my first). I like the brass frame. I've never had a brass-framed handgun before that I can recall. The wooden grips look horrible in the picture, but in real life they look like normal walnut grips. The finish is very nice. The "case coloring" looks really good, even better than my Uberti.

The action is smooth and has four clicks. The trigger is light. They're both comparable to the Uberti. The barrel looks good. The parts all look well made and fit together properly. It arrived well-lubricated.

It has a BS cylinder pin "safety". My understanding is that this can be eliminated by replacing the cylinder pin with a "normal" one. If so, that's what I'll do. The little button that you hold down to release the cylinder pin is too stiff and its travel seems kind of short. That annoys me. I'll probably replace it as well.

I prefer my 38 revolvers for CC and HD, but 38 special ammo costs about twice what 9mm does. I practice with my 2.5" 9mm Ruger SP101 a lot. It's an abomination. The shape was created to almost but not quite fit my hand no matter what grips I put on it. I finally got proper springs on it so that it functions reliably and I can pull the trigger DA with only one finger. It's good practice for my 38 snubs. After I shoot it, my S&W j-frames feel like target pistols.

The Pistolero can be my medium-sized practice revolver sometimes. Its frame is the same size as a K frame, and its grip is the same size as a K frame boot grip. The trigger and guard are in a different spot. It has a thicker cylinder. You can only shoot it single action. But between it and the SP101, I can at least get some kind of practice if there are times when 38 special ammo disappears again.

Any suggestions about the cylinder pin and release, care of brass frames, inexpensive leather holsters, and ammo that 9mm SAA replicas like would be much appreciated. I hope to have a range report before the week's over.

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Really like brass trigger guard! 4-Clicks sound nice!

I bought a very similar one to match my 1873 Winchester replica. The Uberti pistol Comes with 2 Cylinder, .357 & 9mm. Have not shot it yet. But I renewed my Fish & Game Club membership and should have 1-3 shooting sessions a month.

 

[Tallball]

Thanks @Speedo66 . I edited for clarification.

TY @Mark_Mark . I probably "should have" waited until I found a convertible. It seems like it would have also been possible to have a gunsmith ream out a smaller caliber cylinder to 9mm, but now I have a pair of 1873's to dual-wield!

 

[doubleh]

The brass will dull down, don’t think any particular care is required.

Semichrome polish will bring the luster right back. Applying paste wax will make it stay shiny longer.

 

[Coyote3855]

I like brass on firearms with a patina. So I never polish my Uberti 1866.

 

[Crunchy Frog]

It has a BS cylinder pin "safety". My understanding is that this can be eliminated by replacing the cylinder pin with a "normal" one. If so, that's what I'll do. The little button that you hold down to release the cylinder pin is too stiff and its travel seems kind of short. That annoys me. I'll probably replace it as well.

Any suggestions about the cylinder pin and release, care of brass frames, inexpensive leather holsters, and ammo that 9mm SAA replicas like would be much appreciated. I hope to have a range report before the week's over.

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That two position basepin is one of the ways that imported SA revolvers could be imported. Some people grind them from the back to eliminate the rearward groove/notch. Pietta basepins usually have a notch that engages the retention latch. Most other brands have a groove around the circumference of the pin.

I ordered a pair of “no safety” Uberti basepins for my Pietta revolvers. Check VTI Gunparts and Taylor’s for price comparison. I think they were $10 each.

The Pietta is a Colt style lockwork which means you should not carry fully loaded with a round under the hammer. Load five. Search for the “cowboy load” for technique.

 

[Tallball]

TY @Crunchy Frog. I'll order a basepin ASAP.

It's a range toy, but if I had to carry it, there would be an unloaded chamber under the hammer.

Apparently I won't be shooting it until next Thursday or Friday. I'll put a bunch of random rounds through it and see how the accuracy is. I'm predicting pretty much the same as my 357 version.