Cimmaron Model P: What's the lowdown?

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LGS has a model p Cimmaron in .44 WCF for $449 with the box, I handled it and its a solid gun , there was no cylinder play, locks up tight , and has no turn rings. I know its made by Uberti which I know make great Colt replicas but Im hearing that the Cimmaron is "special ordered" to more hand tuning than a standard Uberti and is the closest thing to a Colt you can get besides a Colt (or USFA). So is that statement true? Are they just as well made as a Colt? and also is that a decent price or should I be looking elsewhere? LGS is offering me two free boxes of .44 WCF if I purchase it which is tempting since I currently dont reload that caliber and some starting brass is beneficial.
 
A box of 44-40 is going to be around $35 each so with the gun at $450 I'd call that a deal
 
Anyone have firsthand experience with one? In other words how do they stack up to the actual Colts.

I have these three Ubertis, the one in the center is a Model P in .44 Special from Cimarron, the .22 on the left and the Flat Top .45 on the right are from Stoeger. All are fine guns, how do they stack up against a Colt?
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All have much better trigger pulls from the factory than any Colt I've bought lately. The Cimarron was tuned up at Cimarron to provide an exceptionally smooth and crisp let-off. The .22 from Stoeger had to have some smoothing up but was pretty good from the factory. The .45 I bought second hand so can't compare it.

All three of these guns shoot much better than I can hold, and I'm a pretty fair shot. The finish on my .44 is pretty gaudy, but so also are current Colts. Ubertis do have Italian proof marks, and that long base pin for a safety.

You want a good shooting, rugged Single Action for around $500, Ubertis for you. You want the name "Colt" on your gun and willing to pay $1500 for it, the Colt is for you. Ubertis aren't Colts, but your target won't know any difference.

Bob Wright
 
My Cimarron/Uberti pistols and rifles are all excellent! Actions are smooth as butter with beautiful finishes. The bluing is deep and dark and the " color case hardening" is also very colorful. My opinion is that they are the cream of the crop of all the repros.
 
They're excellent guns but Cimarron's guns are no different from any other importer. That's a good price, if you want it, I'd suggest you get it while the gettin's good.
 
I can't afford a Colt or USFA cowboy gun. Wish I could, but for my purposes, I really don't need to.
I am sure they are nice and probably much better built than Italian clones but I am very happy owning two quality made 45 LC cattleman revolvers from Taylors Uberti. I also have a reduced size Cimarron Model P Jr. in 38 spl. It is about 80% actual size of my other two.
I also have a beautiful Uberti 1873 Sporting Rifle. All excellent quality firearms.
The Cimarron P jr case coloring on the frame pales dramatically next to the Uberti tho. I don't know why, but it's weak and not the same deep colors. I can live with it.
I have found the best prices at gun shops and gun shows and I get to hold them and look them over there.
I don't see any real deals on gun auction sites or popular online sellers stores.
Hey if you like it and it's calling to you ... get it while you can.
I always ask if they can give it to me "out the door" at that price. Works sometimes, sometimes a little, and sometimes not at all.
 
Anyone have firsthand experience with one? In other words how do they stack up to the actual Colts.

Howdy

Yes, I have had two Uberti Cimarron Cattlemen. I also have two 2nd Gen Colts and two 1st Gen Colts. So I feel I am qualified to comment on this question.

The bit about Cimarrons being extra special tuned is a lot of hooey. I have been hearing that myth for years. In point of fact, the first Cimarron I had had the absolutely worst trigger I have ever experienced on any Single Action revolver, and I have had a bunch of them over the years. In addition, the front sight leaned over to one side, because the barrel had not been properly screwed in. So much for the myth about Cimarrons being made with extra care. I did not have the tools necessary to torque the barrel in correctly and eventually I unloaded that one and used the money as a down payment on a Ruger Vaquero.

A few years later I came across another used Cimarron Cattleman at a reasonable price, so I took a chance and bought that one. Much better than the first one, the trigger was fine, but when I took it apart I found there was a small void in the hammer just under the cam. That would have put some nasty wear on the bolt and it took some serious stoning to smooth out the void. Of course Cimarron hammers are cast and Colt hammers are forged and machined, so you won't see that type of casting flaw on a Colt hammer.

For what they cost, Uberti single action revolvers are fine, but you do not get Colt quality for that kind of money. As far as extra care being taken at the Uberti factory for the Cimarron importer, it's a lot of hooey. That applies to their rifles too. Remind me to tell you about all the burrs I found inside an Uberti/Cimarron replica of the Winchester Model 1873. Those burrs would never have left the Winchester factory.
 
Dude on another forum claimed to be a former employee at Cimarron and worked really hard to try and get folks to believe that Cimarron's guns were better but could never tell you exactly how they were better. I suspect because they're not.
 
Thanks for yall's replies I decided to pass on that cimmaron.... Cause I found a 7th Cav Custer edition in .45 colt that's I'm going to get instead! Will get the gun next Sat will post pics asap.
 
Thanks for yall's replies I decided to pass on that cimmaron.... Cause I found a 7th Cav Custer edition in .45 colt that's I'm going to get instead! Will get the gun next Sat will post pics asap.

Unfamiliar with that model, so I Googlyed it. Whoa! Just what I've been lusting for! Love those long barreled SA's!

I need a smoke now.....
 
rondog

If you love long barreled single actions here's my EMF Hartford SAA U.S. Cavalry model.

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I thumbed a coworker's Colt 45 two months ago and aside from the slightly better case color finish and more audible clicks when cocking I don't think I'd get a Colt. As an aside he said his wasn't exactly accurate. I've only shot my Uberti (a 32), but considering looks and actual accuracy I wouldn't trade it for a Colt in the same caliber.
 
Anyone have firsthand experience with one? In other words how do they stack up to the actual Colts.

I bought a Cimarron Model P in 5 1/2" .44 Special a few years ago, I also owned a 3rd Generation Colt in 4 3/4" .44 Special. If it tells you anything, I sold the Colt but still have, and will always have the Cimarron. It's an amazingly accurate revolver. The Colt was a little prettier, but from a functional standpoint there was no difference.

I also bought a Cimarron Bisley in 5 1/2" 45 Colt a couple of years ago. Beautiful revolver that like the Model P was amazingly accurate. And FWIW, when say accurate, I mean fist-size groups at 50 yds accurate.

35W
 
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