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City dwellers move to country and are shocked to find hunting !!!

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  1. scout26

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    From http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/top/4_1_JO19_HUNTING_S1.htm

    Frankfort is in the far south suburbs of Chicago

    Residents: hunter too close for comfort
    • Frankfort landowner: Has right to shoot on his own property

    By Janet Lundquist
    staff writer

    FRANKFORT — A landowner hunting geese on his property has ruffled the feathers of some residents on the south side of town.

    The property in question is a field along 116th Avenue between Laraway and Steger roads that is destined for residential development. The land is partially surrounded by three subdivisions that are within the village's boundaries.

    Next spring, the landowner, Gander Builders, intends to seek annexation into the village, officials said. For now, the landowner apparently spends some time hunting on the property.

    The land is unincorporated, and the hunting is legal.

    But some residents living in the neighborhoods around the vacant land say they are worried about safety — mainly for their children as they board school buses in the morning, sometimes while a hunt is under way.

    "If they wanted to hunt, they could have gone farther south where there's no subdivisions," said one woman who lives near the property but did not want her name printed. "We just don't want that around here. Accidents happen."

    The resident said she contacted Will County sheriff's police about the situation, and they told her that the hunting was legal — and that she should not have moved to the country if she did not like hunting.

    Another resident who did not want her name printed said the hunting is "disturbing."

    "It's just going to take one kid getting hurt," she said. "I know it's their land; they own it. But the chance, the opportunity, shouldn't even be there because hunters have accidents all the time."

    Phone calls and e-mail to Gander Builders were not returned.

    It is legal to hunt with a shotgun on private property if the hunting is done at least 100 yards away from an inhabited dwelling, according to the Illinois Department of Natural Resources. If the nearest residence is less than 100 yards away, the hunter must get the property owner's permission.

    Will County sheriff's spokesman Pat Barry said the department receives numerous complaints about legal hunting across the county. The calls are mainly from residents who have moved to rural areas from more populated areas and are surprised by the hunting, he said.

    The residents contacted Frankfort Mayor Jim Holland, who said village officials looked into the residents' complaints and found the hunting was legal. Hunting or shooting firearms is not legal in the village of Frankfort.

    "I can understand the concerns of the residents, but I believe the laws are structured in such a way that there is basic safety being considered," Holland said.

    The hunting will end when the property is annexed into the village, Holland added.

    "Maybe he's a safe hunter, but the point is, grow up. Move on to another cornfield," the first resident said. "If people ask me what I think about Gander Builders, I'm going to tell them."

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    Kudos to the Sherriff and Mayor !!!!

    If you didn't want to be around hunting don't move to the country/rural areas. :cuss: :banghead:

    Uhhh, sorry, WRONG !!! Someone else here can look up the CDC statistics that show that Hunting is one of the, if not the safest sport.
     
  2. Creeping Incrementalism

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    These city slickers seem to forget that driving kills about four times as many people as shooting does in the U.S. If they are so concerned about safety and think guns are too dangerous to be around, they shouldn't even let their kids near the street.

    And the gall of the resident who said, "grow up, move to another cornfield..." What else to say to this than, get used to the fact that people hunt in the country, and move to another subdivision. It reminds me of how airports that used to be in the countryside get noise abatement restrictions from people who move close to it. If you don't like airport noise, why did you move next to an airport??? Anyway, I once lived a hundred yards from the fence of a small International airport, and the noise didn't bother me any.
     
  3. C. Rabbit

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    Darn right. Somebody needs to tell those idiots off.

    "And I know all about hunting, because my great uncle went hunting once!"
    Not only that, they want to control what others do with their land.
    I'm sure all decent people will shun those nefarious fiends once it comes out that they build homes next to fields where legal activities sometimes transpire. And grow up?! Just because you parked your royal *** next to him, you want to force other people to accomodate to your blissininny fears? And what does growing up have to do with it at all? Or do you mean, turn into a sheep that shies away from offending the littlest fly?

    Sheesh. City folk*. They move into the country, expecting quant rustic life and get upset when people actually live their lives out their.

    CR

    *This is a generalization, but, as is the usually the case when I make generalizations, I don't care.
    :p
     
  4. The Real Hawkeye

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    This reminds me of an acquaintance who owned a cabin in the mountains of Vermont. He told me that neighbors, who recently moved in the property adjacent to theirs, called the police soon after moving in (when hunting season started) to report gun fire. Her report was met with laughter by the policeman who answered the phone. He informed her that it was hunting season, and that's why there was gun fire. Didn't get a follow up, but people uncomfortable with guns and hunting should either buy a thousand acres of country land and make their home in the middle of it, or don't move to the country.
     
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    Mabey these concerned parents should take their kids to the city to play. I mean after all, what kind of responsible parent would allow their children out of their sight when an EVIL gunowner is about... much less a redneck, hillbilly, NRA, hunter/extremist.:eek:
     
  6. Standing Wolf

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    Sounds like a disgruntled Kerry voter to me.
     
  7. ReadyontheRight

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    Yet she allows school buses, cars and probably even pools in the neighborhood.:rolleyes:
     
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    I suggest that the residents who are forced to give up hunting all start up hobby farms. PIG hobby farms.:evil:
     
  9. DonP

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    Oh the shame of it all!

    I live in Frankfort, have for the last 15 years, and yes the place is in the middle of one of the fastest growing Counties (Will) in the US for the last 3 years.

    The guy walking the field for birds and rabbits was probably one of the owners of Gander developments. The field is huge and her development is a brand new billiard tabel flat, treeless development and is an easy half mile from the fields they are talking about. What a Marroon she is.

    This Soccer Mom is typical of the newest crop of Chicago immigrants we have now, all fleeing Daley's taxes and corruption in Cook County. But dragging their "Liberal control" mindset with them all the way. It's like the folks that buy less expensive homes in the O'Hare glide path and then are shocked to discover an airport in their back yard and want to sue somebody.

    These folks move into a new development and immediately draft a 40+ page "covenant" that controls every aspect of their little enclave; no above ground swimming pools, the kind of vehicle you can park in your driveway (I'm not kidding about that) the kind of outbuilding you may (or may not) build on your own property, how many lawn ornaments you may have at one time etc..

    Holland and the new Chief are pretty decent people. For the last four years Frankfort has actually REFUNDED tax money to us because they had a surplus that went unspent. Imagine that, politicians that give you your money back.

    Our last Police Chief was a real PITA that gave me a real hard time when I applied for my original C&R license. He actually called me personally to tell me he was "denying the request". Then, when I told him he didn't have that authority, my letter was for information purposes only, he really got bent out of shape. I got my C&R license and he got voted out of office and then lost the next 3 elections for other county offices. Good riddance.
     
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    "It's just going to take one kid getting hurt," she said. "I know it's their land; they own it. But the chance, the opportunity, shouldn't even be there because hunters have accidents all the time."

    :what:

    Wow, this "fact" certainly comes as a surprise to me. I've been hunting on and off for about 40 years now and remember about a dozen or so accidents in all that time. And a couple of those "accidents" were a spouse shooting a spouse. In both of those there was a second shot to the "accident". I don't recall hearing about a hunting accident here in Washington in the 10+ years I've lived here. Just amongst my living family we probably have about 300 years experience with zero accidents.
     
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    My favorite is the stories of the city folk who build their McMansions out in the woods or the fields by the river and then are shocked when Fluffy the poodle gets attacked by WILD Animals!:eek:
     
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    Here we go again... It's for the CHILDREN... My A**... I think Don hit the nail on the head- They drag their "liberal" expectations out to the country and are upset when reality bites them....:fire:
     
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    That's a great analogy and one that is close to my heart as I encounter this all the time. It would comfort me if I saw people hunting in my area. It means decent people live here.

    Its a liberal control issue. They don't do it, so they don't think you should do it either. Just like flying small aircraft. They're SO DANGEROUS! OMG!
     
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    What gets me is that they are complaining about hunting waterfowl. That is probably the safest form of hunting next to live animal trapping.:rolleyes:
     
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    It's not just guns. A lot of them are just clueless about everything involved in living where the sidewalk ends.

    Ottawa County in Michigan gives out pamphlets with a scratch and sniff of a manure for those city folks considering moving in.
     
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    Same idiots who would be shocked to learn milk comes from cows.
     
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    MILK

    If you think they dont lnow where milk comes from just think how they would respond when told where ham and eggs come from
     
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    There is something that needs hunted down and killed. It ain't the geese folks.
     
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    "YOU GET EGGS OUT OF WHAT?
     
  20. Lupinus

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    I hate these people. If you don't friggin like it get the hell out of MY neighborhood. People who move into a neighborhood and then bitch trying to get things changed should be slapped by packs of deranged clowns.
     
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    One city lady has moved into our little town. She is now on the City council. She went for a walk on a trail there. She saw a bow hunter. Just saw him walking along the trail not hunting at the time. She wanted to ban bow hunting in the entire little town. Then she wanted to ban bow hunting 300 feet from her little trail. It did not pass. She was pissed. Now she wants to make everyone in the little town recyle their garbage. Somethig tells me she will not be on the City Council next election.:cuss:
     
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    I grew up in very small towns, we had a cow , chickens and rabbits, in town.
    We could hunt doves 2 blocks away, this was the '50's, a 12-13 year old girl in school who had just moved there from Michigan or Wisconsin or some such place, was asked how you git milk from a cow.
    Her reply was " You pull down on the horns and the milk comes out"
    She was sorta giggled at by the girls, even the 6-7 year olds and absolutely laughed out the recess yard by the boys, some of the kinder coments involved letting some boys pull her horns down for her.
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  23. progunner1957

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    AMEN too that!!:D
    She needs to grow up and wake up to the fact that city people with money to burn do not own and run the world.

    The guy who owns the land owned it waaaaaaaaaay before these pricks moved in next to him - and he is supposed to stop doing a LEGAL activity on HIS land, just because they say so?? No freaking way. I hope the bird hunter tells them all "GFY.":D :D
     
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    I know the feeling, I live in a semi-rural area of Western Mass. It is still a great place to live, since the wealth poured in from the tourist, during the fall season. Old run down mill towns, have been remodeled, and are now booming with tourist trade. It all started in the late sixities when the New Yorkers found the place and now have made the area into a fashion disctrict of New York City. I rarley see hunters during deer season, many have decided to flee to New York State, Vermont or Maine to hunt, because of the assine restrictions put in place in certain towns that are now controlled by ex New Yorkers, restricting hunting to state forest. City, county land and owns own land are off limits. Like clock work every year when a hunting season starts, the local newspaper, run by ex New York Times journalist, editorial runs anti-hunting and gun pieces. It probably be less than a generation until the state legislators ban all hunting do to the increase pressure from animal rights activists and people who dislike hunting. The eastern part of the state is just as bad with the urban Bostonites moving into rural areas Northwest, or Southwest of Boston and into Southern NH. :mad:
     
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    I wonder what Soccer Mommy will say when the geese start doing their goose-messin on the new play ground, ball diamond, or little master Hilfigger slips and falls in it and (GASP!) greases up his new soccer uniform!
    These people make me sick.
     
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