Civilian Battle Rifles--Does Mag Capacity Matter THAT Much?

[labgrade]

Absolutely cannot get into anything that can't be topped off, so the en blocs are out for me. & that's from one who has never even shot one. Just can't get into that concept somehow.

"Defensive rifle" seems somewhat contradictory to me somehow although I can go there ..... & have one.

"Defensive" screams shotgun here.

Far as a "layin' it down" rifle, my old 760 pump in .30-06 & some mags will do that just dandy enough.

 

[Oleg Volk]

Large mags are especially important for civvies -- few of us wear mag pouches on a regular basis. Grab a rifle with one mag in it and that's all you might get. Also, manual dexterity goes south in combat (esp. if not trained well) or in the cold, etc. -- having humped AK/AR/M14/Mauser/Enfield around TN hills, I much prefer 20-30rd mags to 5-10...too many times when reloading was awkward or slow to effect.

 

[Onslaught]

From my POV, specifically in the honest to goodness "Civilian Battle Rifle" role, mag capacity IS important...

If this rifle is indeed for your protection in case of civil unrest, which scenario would you more likely enconter where you would NEED to protect your family, home, and person with that rifle... a mob of 50 people with weapons varying from pitchfork to 12 gauge busting through your doors and windows because you have food and they don't, or 10 well armed and organized individuals taking up covered positions 75 yards away and opening fire on your home?

Barring government conspiracy paranoia, I can only imagine scenario number one. Therefore, I would choose a rifle that would perform as well as possible in S1. As a side benefit, such a rifle would still be readily adaptable for S2, although it may not be the absolute most effective choice.

Since neither S1 or S2 are all that likely in any event... I think quick mag changes are a very good second choice to a large capacity mag. So if you like the SL8... go for it! But not just for PC sake PLEASE! Politically Correct mostly just means "saying what we want you to say; doing what we tell you to do".... I do NOT play that way. Buy what you want and be happy

 

[T.Stahl]

Well, my SL8 will accept 30rd G36 mags, with a slight modification to the mags. They are just so ... uuh ... pricey.

 

[Redlg155]

Everyone feels a certain comfort in having a plentiful supply of ammo. Sure, someone could say they felt comfortable with a lower capacity weapon, but you can bet they have spare magazines close at hand.

Good Shooting
RED

 

[BerettaNut92]

If things really got that bad I'd run away to Pulaski, Tennessee, and get some REAL firepower and friends that actually know how to shoot.

I'm thinking with an HK SLB2000 with the side of the receiver being flat, I'm going to put a piece of industrial strength velcro on the receiver and stick the mags on there and on the stock, like the sidesaddle of a shotgun. Maybe I can have 10 in the mag, and 40 more rounds hanging on the gun.

Something to try out since I don't go tactical around the house with my magpouches on, even if some of you think I do!

 

[444]

If you need eight rounds or less to solve the problem, an M1 will work. If you need eight rounds or less to solve the problem, an AR will work and you have 12 more rounds on tap in case something else crops up.

 

[T.Stahl]

What does the SLB2000 and 10rd mags cost in the USA?
Here the SLB2000K in .308 costs 1329EU and 10rd mags cost 53EU.

Are HK SL7s available in the USA?

 

[DrDremel]

The biggest reason to have the high capacity magazine is the cost of surplus magazines. For some rifles they are as cheap as $10 even as low as $3. Nobody is going to make a new mag for less than $10 no matter what the capacity.

 

[Bostonterrier97]

I believe that 10 round HK SL7 mags are going for about $85 US dollars. Click Here for Price

For some reason the HK SL7 isn't imported here...which is too bad because it looks like a very nice rifle.

We make do with our M1A's (M14's)

Our FALs..

And our AR15's...

 

[sixgun_symphony]

If we are talking large mobs of looters pouring out of the slums in a civil disturbance, then I say no problem.

Give me any deer rifle.

Most rioters are not that brave. Shoot a few and the rest will flee.

 

[BerettaNut92]

I would love an SL7. 10 round mags and parts in general are a pain to find.

Too bad they don't make them, or SL6's any more. They're politically correct HK93s and 91s.

T Stahl, I called HK USA and they don't know when theyre going to import the SLB2000s in .308

More like SLB2003.

 

[Nero Steptoe]

"Civilian Battle Rifles.."

OxyMORON, if there's ever been one!

 

[CAP]

My civilian ammo supply supply won't be limited!
That's the reason to buy in bulk now.