CMP Garand supply

[CLP]

Not sure how they source their Garands, but their current stock appears pretty low. Just some 308 Win CMP Specials and sniper variants. The supply is obviously finite, but have they gone through such periods before where all their rack and service grades were sold out? My last order saw only one of two rifles fulfilled (this was a month ago).

 

[lpsharp88]

Man I really lucked out! My Special grade 30-06 came last Thursday, the 12th. They sold out of those on the 13th

 

[Reloadron]

Every now and then this subject gets mentioned. Yes, the supply is finite and sooner or later the CMP will have nothing left in their crib. There are plenty out there but the CMP will no longer be a reasonable priced source. Will the government allow the import of any that are remaining out there? I guess it will depend on future administrations. Even then, those would be gone pretty quickly.

Ron

 

[GBExpat]

Last time that I recall it appearing to be approaching the zero point for CMP M1s was in Spring'03 ... then the Greek Returns suddenly appeared. WHEW!

Unfortunately, it does not appear that there are any other such sources "out there" for the CMP, so ...

And, no, the Korean M1s don't count in this because they wouldn't be coming thru the CMP even if they were allowed to be imported.

 

[maxxhavoc]

According to their Facebook page, they put orders on hold until they could catch up. Hopefully, this is the whole story.

The supplies are still finite, but it does not sound like they are out of them. My guess is that shipping out the M1 Carbines put them too far behind on the Garands.

 

[GBExpat]

According to their Facebook page, they put orders on hold until they could catch up. Hopefully, this is the whole story.

The supplies are still finite, but it does not sound like they are out of them. My guess is that shipping out the M1 Carbines put them too far behind on the Garands.

Lest someone misunderstands the "hold until they can catch up" aspect of this ... they typically do this so that they do not over-run/-promise/-sell against a dwindling supply.

Not a dwindling supply of currently-available-to-ship rifles but a dwindling supply of any-now-or-in-the-foreseeable-future rifles.

They just want to make reasonably sure that they have enough rifles to fulfill orders on-hand, because, considering all of the orders on-hand, they see the bottom of the barrel fast approaching.

 

[Tirod]

Agreed - if the racks were full they'd want to keep shipping new orders. There is a finite supply.

There is now an appointed Secretary of the Army and that is one less regulatory issue with the Army releasing the 1911's. If that should come to pass then up to 10,000 could be sold annually for the 100,000 available. About ten years of supply.

Garands weren't going to be available forever and the CMP will have to move into other firearms as they are allowed.

 

[P5 Guy]

From the adoption of the M1 Rifle in 1937 thru to the change to the M14 in 1958 a bit over six and a quarter million M1 Rifles were made. Now think of the Lend-Lease rifles that will never be coming back, the rifles lost in the numerous amphibious landings from Africa to Iwo Jima, or destroyed due to war and 'Captain Crunch' during the Clinton administration how many are left in serviceable or repairable condition? A number of receivers were cut in half due to being too worn, some of those were welded back together. Mixed front and rear receivers welded together are shunned.
Of course the CMP will run out, how soon is anyone's guess.

 

[kBob]

Hopefully some one is keeping an eye out on Lend Lease users.

The agreement was that if the country lent to ever got tired of the equipment it was to be returned.

Mid 1970's and the French decided to trash their m46 tanks as scrap and so sent out feelers to do so. Someone noticed and a good regiments worth of Pershing tanks got transported to Grafenhower for use as target tanks and the French felt ripped off.

About 1980 the Dutch offered some Grasshopper prop observation planes the same way and a USAF Officer in Europe noticed and soon a pair of them were being shipped to the 3AD museum in Frankfort. This got the attention of some of the Divarty officers and a WWII vintage 155mm "long tom" got shipped to Hanau and the 3AD HHB for display in front of the HQ building. Just for giggles the gun was brought to operational status and surveyed in and a target fan prepared for where it was pointed. Yes, it could have fired the then current ammo for the M109A3 at lower charge levels.

Unfortunately I think pretty much all the Lend Lease rifles are about gone.

Might not hurt if someone did the research though.........

-kBob

 

[P5 Guy]

Lend Lease

A bunch were loaned to the UK, they destroyed them I've read.
Wherever there was a communist threat in the 1950s and 60s, the US government sent rifles. I've seen photos of Garands in Haiti and other tropical 3rd world countries. It would be a miracle these rifles would be in a repairable condition, and the US government felt they were obsolete.

 

[Onmilo]

<<<< Still waiting and praying for those 1011A1 .45 pistols to be released,,,

 

[mshootnit]

Plus theres those Korean M1 Garands that are going to come in!

 

[MAKster]

They are getting to the bottom of the barrel on Garands. That means a lot more work is needed to be done on these rifles before they are ready for sale. That takes time. So for now on they likely won't have anything for sale for a few months while they built up an inventory of complete rifles. Then they will sell all those finished rifles at one time. And then do it all over again.