CMP m1 Garand

[Ruger745]

Hey everybody,
I was going through one of my American Rifleman magazines and I noticed an ad for CMP who sells M1 Garands. Has anyone had any experience with them before, and are their rifles as nice as they look on the Internet?

Thanks for the info!

While I'm thinking of it. Where can you find En Bloc clips for a M1 garand?

 

[memphisjim]

thecmp.org start there

 

[Ignition Override]

Most Garand owners (who are not selling) highly recommend the CMP, not only for its evaluations of each rifle, but also for their service.
Being totally unfamiliar, I asked a friend to buy an extra during the Camp Perry matches last summer, a Service Grade. The wood is dark and has some minor dings, but the metal and bore are very nice.

Their guns are safe to operate and a very good value. Many owners recommend the Service Grade.
Be aware that many M-1s at gun shows came from the CMP, and even if some parts were not substituted, the prices might be $200-400 higher than what the CMP now sells.
How would you know that such rifles at gun shows (shops) are reliable and safe, unless under warranty?

 

[ol' scratch]

If you are interested, I can meet you at the North Store and help you pick out a nice one. The rifles the CMP is getting right now are AMAZING! I go to the North Store on a regular basis. Not only have I gotten rifles in like new condition, I have gotten AP-M2, the best price on 30-06 in the country, Oneida bayonets and a Kimber Model 82. My most recent rifle is a Winchester M1 with lock bar sights. The CMP is a Government organization. You can't go wrong in my humble opinion. The North Store is located at Camp Perry in Sandusky Ohio.

 

[Tim the student]

Hey everybody,
I was going through one of my American Rifleman magazines and I noticed an ad for CMP who sells M1 Garands. Has anyone had any experience with them before, and are their rifles as nice as they look on the Internet?

Thanks for the info!

While I'm thinking of it. Where can you find En Bloc clips for a M1 garand?

I've bought a few rifles from them. I think the CMP is great - I just wish I could afford a few more.

The rifles will be at least as good as described. Some folks get all bent out of shape that they didn't get one as nice as some other guy got, and lose sight of the fact that theirs is still at least as good as the descriptions, and probably better. If it is not for some reason, they will make it right. Their service is stellar in my experience. Like MemphisJim said, check out their site - you can find prices and grade descriptions there, and also see what else they sell besides M1s. Also, look at their forum - lots of good stuff there.

There is some stuff you need to do to qualify for them, but it is pretty easy for most folks to do. Some are unwilling to do those things, and that is fine. They take their chances from other sellers (a couple are good, but they are pricey).

One clip will come with the rifle. The best way to go about getting more is to buy ammo from the CMP, IMO.

 

[deadeye1122]

Thought I would through a pic in for Ruger. Heres the H&R service grade I received last month from CMP. All H&R metal, new birch stock. Shoots great. Just ask the guys at the tuesday lunch hour get together at the range. I'm all most thru a box of greek ammo.

 

[SFCRandall]

I recommend getting one of the service grades. These are highly underrated values for shooters. I bought a Springfield Armory and a Harrington & Richardson and each is gorgeous with only slight signs of use. They are shipped right to your door in a hard case with the CMP logo. Surplus ammo is also available including rounds already loaded in enbloc clips and priced half what commercial stuff retails. If you are a veteran most of the eligibility requirements have been met. Browse their website and check out the forums to learn more.

 

[ol' scratch]

My Winchester from the CMP

Lead dipped heel too

 

[easy]

Lead dipped heel too

What is this?

 

[Trebor]

I'm a big fan of the CMP. I have several CMP M-1 Garands and I've yet to be disappointed.

You'll find the info you need at the CMP website at www.odcmp.org
I wrote a couple articles on buying a CMP Garand for my Michigan Firearms Examiner page. You may also find them useful:

How to purchase a M-1 Garand from the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP)

A look at the best CMP M-1 Garand choices available

 

[plodder]

Even though the CMP is a government affiliated program, somehow it earns and deserves high marks for customer satisfaction. I have purchased 3 rifles and a boatload of MilSurp Greek ammo from CMP. All was at least as advertised, most far exceeded advertised. I have had several occassions to email & phone CMP reps. All have been top notch and take ownership in the business.

 

[dmazur]

The CMP is a Government organization.

Here's a link to the CMP site

http://www.odcmp.co/about_us.htm

Their mission is actually marksmanship training and safety. Selling rifles is how they fund these activities. I understand they are creating what amounts to a trust fund which will hopefully be able to continue these programs after the rifles are all sold. (There is a finite supply...unfortunately.)

"Government-afiliated" is probably a better term. I believe the prior organization, the DCM, dated back to a 1903 War Appropriations Act and was a government entity.

 

[aka108]

I have purchased 2 M1 service grade Garands and two Kimber 82G's from CMP. All have exceeded the descriptions given by CMP in their catalog. When I see some of the Garands at gunshows and the prices that are being asked I then realize what a bargain the CMP rifles are.

 

[Drummer101]

If you want clips just buy a tin of of surplus stuff from them that comes in clips.

I had one from the CMP and I sold it this past week because I lean more for the shotgun.

But I got the service grade for $595 and it was worth much more than that.

Only place I would buy sight un seen.

 

[Col. Plink]

No need to go service grade if you can get to the store. They'll help you with the muzzle & bore guages and you can get a fine field grade for 5 bills. Don't let the condition of the stock dissuade you, it makes for a fun project and will look good when you're done.

 

[mgkdrgn]

If you are looking to purchase an M1 Garand, there simply is no better place to get one (assuming you are not in a hurry!) than CMP.

 

[GCBurner]

What is this?

A lead dipped heel? It's where the rear of the receiver was annealed after heat treating by being dipped in molten lead, to relieve some of the hardness of the receiver and keep it from developing cracks from the impact of the bolt. The Parkerizing finish sticks differently to the lead dipped part, and shows as a different shade of gray.

 

[P-32]

Rugar....I'm afraid I have to echo everyone else .so far. I have several CMP service grades, a correct grade H&R and a field grade which turned out to be couple of parts short from being WWII correct. The field grade has the weakest barrel. I. I picked this rifle up at the north store in 07 while at Perry. These M1's are the real deal, not re-welds with no soul. These rifles have history. Most of the M-1's I've seen for sale are either former CMP rifles or fakes. Jumping through the CMP paper work hoops can be dis-hearting at times but completion is fulfillment. When your rifle arrives it is better than any Christmas you've had.

 

[skidooman603]

Do your paper work to become legal to buy from the CMP. If you can make it to either North or South Store go. If you are too far away forget Field Grades. You could get a peach but more likely a dog. The safest mail order bet is a Service Grade Special or Special Grade. I believe $899 SGS or $999 SP GR. These rifles are as close to new as an M1 comes. A service grade at $600 will always be a shootable and sometimes pristine rifle but no promises. I have bought 15-20 from CMP and just love the in store experience but worth the extra couple hundy to get the grades above if going mail order..JMHO

 

[PCGS65]

To buy from the CMP you will need the proper paperwork. USA birth certificate,proof of membership in an affiliated gun club,range certification and the notarized form that you are a US citizen and not a felon ect.
You can't go wrong on a CMP service grade for $595+22.95 shipped to your door and if you have some extra cash $1100 a correct grade is a great value too for a 100% original post WWII M1 garand.

Here's a HRA service grade I hand picked from the north store last fall. Now this is above the normal service grades availabe and closer to a collecotor grade but it just shows how nice the service grades are from the CMP at this time. This one had a lot of cosmoline on it and looked like you didn't want to touch it, but I did and I'm darn glad too.

Most service grades now have replacement birch stocks that are very nice but some don't like them because they're not USGI wood.

Just look at the minimal wear on the bolt,lugs,gas cylinder ect.

 

[Tim the student]

USA birth certificate,proof of membership in an affiliated gun club,range certification and the notarized form that you are a US citizen and not a felon ect.

PCG, I'm not trying to sharpshoot you, but that info isn't wrong, but it isn't entirely correct, and isn't all encompassing. I just want the OP to have correct info. ETA: Nice rifle you have. How does it shoot?

Here are the requirements from the order form, available here.

U.S. Citizenship and Age: You must provide a copy of a
U.S. birth certificate, passport, proof of naturalization, or
any official government document that shows birth in the
U.S. or otherwise states citizenship as U.S. A drivers license
is proof of age, but IS NOT proof of U.S. citizenship.
A copy of a military ID (active, reserve, guard, retired) will
serve as proof of U.S. citizenship. A copy of Law Enforcement
ID (active or retired) will serve as proof of U.S. citizenship.
2. Membership in CMP Affiliated Organization: You must
provide a copy of your current membership card or other
proof of membership. This requirement cannot be
waived. The CMP currently has over 2,000 affiliated organizations located in many parts of the country. Membership
in many of these organizations costs $25.00 or
less and can be accomplished online. A listing of affiliated
organizations can be found by clicking on our “CLUB Info”
tab on our web site at www.odcmp.com. If you have
any difficulty in locating a club, please contact the CMP
at 256-835-8455 or by emailing [email protected].
We will find one for you.
In addition to shooting clubs, the CMP also has several
special affiliates. Membership in these organizations satisfies our requirement for purchase. These special affiliates
include:
• Congressionally chartered veterans’ organizations
such as the VFW, AL, DAV, MCL, etc.
• U.S. Military services (active or reserves), National
Guard, to include retirees. Copy of ID required.
• Law Enforcement departments and agencies and Law
Enforcement organizations and associations (to include
LEO retirees). Copy of ID required. Note: Club
membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts,
and ammunition. Club membership is NOT required
for instructional publications or videos or CMP memorabilia.
3. Marksmanship or other Firearms Related Activity: You
must provide proof of participation in a marksmanship
related activity or otherwise show familiarity with the
safe handling of firearms and range procedures. Your
marksmanship related activity does not have to be
with highpower rifles; it can be with smallbore rifles,
pistols, air guns or shotguns. Proof of marksmanship
participation can be provided by documenting any of the
following:
• Current or past military or law enforcement service.
• Participation in a rifle, pistol, air gun or shotgun competition (provide copy of results bulletin).
• Completion of a marksmanship clinic that included
live fire training (provide a copy of the certificate of
completion or a statement from the instructor).
• Distinguished, Instructor, or Coach status.
• Concealed Carry License.
• Firearms Owner Identification Card that includes live
fire training.
• FFL or C&R license.
• Completion of a Hunter Safety Course that included
live fi re training.
• Certification from range or club official or law enforcement
officer witnessing shooting activity. A form for
use in completing and certifying your range firing can
be downloaded from the CMP web site at http://
www.odcmp.com/forms/marksmanship.pdf.
• No proof of marksmanship required if over age 60.
Proof of club membership and citizenship required for
all ages.
NOTE: Proof of marksmanship activity is only required for
purchase of rifles.
4. Legal Eligibility to Purchase

If anyone has questions about specifics, the staff is more than willing to help. Their CS is great. The requirements are easier to complete than a lot of people think.

 

[Ignition Override]

Does anybody have decent info on how much longer they will receive Garands from overseas, compared to past quantities/frequencies?
I hope to buy my second this summer, but maybe a year later the prices will go up a good bit due to very limited foreign supplies?

It's really too bad that the huge Navy weapons (WW1, WW2-) storage facility in a certain US state can't furnish their rifles to the CMP....
My gun guru met a guy who works there, and the concern might be that they are better off stored and inaccessible, versus in the hands of Feinstein/Schumer etc.

 

[Hacker15E]

The head of the CMP has stated on the CMP forums that, barring any major influxes of rifles from unexpected sources, they have a 2-5 year supply of Garands.

NOW are the "good old days" that rifle shooters and collectors will talk about in the future.

Don't waste another day -- complete your CMP paperwork and order a Service Grade!

 

[Orlando]

Never heard of them

 

[TIMC]

I've had my Springfield for quite a few years now and it has been a great rifle not to mention at a very reasonable on the price through the CMP.
She sure is purty!

She can also still take them swine down too!