CMP Releases more 1911 info

[mgmorden]

So, here's what you do:

Join the Garand Collectors Association for $25 per year, you can do it online. They will send your membership info to the CMP without you doing anything.

-Xerox your birth Certificate or Passport.
-Xerox your SC CWP (I assume you have this?)
-Fill out the Form, which is shorter than a 4473. Get it notarized at the bank or wherever.
-Fill out the order form
Stick them in an envelope and Mail them off. Paperwork done for 2 years and you can buy several Garands with just order forms during that time. Shipped directly to your doorstep, no 4473 or FFL needed.

It sounds more complicated than it is the first time you do it...been there, done that. The 1911s are supposed to be the same or similar paperwork + a 4473.

Yeah I'm already a member of a gun club and USPSA which qualifies for CMP. The Garand process doesn't seem too bad it's just a matter of ordering it when I have the funds .

The whole lottery system + needing to coordinate with a local 4473 for the 1911's just puts me off of that one.

 

[DaisyCutter]

I have a CMP service grade Garand. It is mmaculate. It's shootable, and it is tangible history.

I also have a CMP service grade M1 Carbine. It to is immaculate. It's shootable, and it is tangible history.

I'm going to order a CMP 1911. Why? I have the funding and I want one.

Do I have more money than brains? I have at least enough brains to be responsible with my money. My credit score, assets, and retirement funds all look really good. My truck, Jeep, dirtbike and boat are all paid off.

Maybe I have money and brains, and the freedom to assign value wherever I please.

I'll spend $1000 on an offshore fishing trip to come home with a dead tuna and a sunburn.

$1000 for a USGI 1911? Sold! No hesitation. No flipping. This is just to pet and oil, and kiss goodnight.

 

[CoalTrain49]

I'm thinking about submitting the paperwork. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. If I don't get chosen in the lottery it won't break my heart. Something to go with my USGI carbine that I break out once a year. If I tire of it I suppose I can always sell it. I used to have two carbines and decided to sell one. Gone in the blink of an eye.

 

[Homerboy]

I'm thinking about submitting the paperwork. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. If I don't get chosen in the lottery it won't break my heart. Something to go with my USGI carbine that I break out once a year. If I tire of it I suppose I can always sell it. I used to have two carbines and decided to sell one. Gone in the blink of an eye.

That’s exactly my thinking. I missed out on the M1 Carbines last year. I’m throwing my hat in the ring for these. If I get lucky, I get one. If I’m not thrilled with it, I easily make my money back on a sale. No real risk.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

Someday, people will marvel at the price these are sold at...and that the government allowed them to be sold at all.

I already marvel that the government is selling them. Never thought I'd see the day.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

I'm going to try to grab a Garand before the run out

I just saw a video, produced by GCA on he Filipino Garands. They're pretty rough, but there are 86k of them now at the Alabama facility.

 

[Mosin Bubba]

I'll be passing on this one. As others have said, the guns have a lot of historical provenance and that's their main appeal. Even at $1000 they will get snapped up instantly.

But frankly, I'm not personally invested in the history of them - no more than I would with say an Israeli Hi-Power - and to me it's just $1000 for a clapped-out piece of junk. These guns were all used for 40 years straight, and they're probably going to be in pretty terrible shape.

 

[Mike P Wagner]

I'll be passing on this one. As others have said, the guns have a lot of historical provenance and that's their main appeal. Even at $1000 they will get snapped up instantly.

But frankly, I'm not personally invested in the history of them - no more than I would with say an Israeli Hi-Power - and to me it's just $1000 for a clapped-out piece of junk. These guns were all used for 40 years straight, and they're probably going to be in pretty terrible shape.

I guess that there is an element of chance here. I think that there - of my dad’s experience is normal - many, many of them may have been carried for many years, but perhaps not shot very often at all. The pitting sounds like it could be pretty nasty, but many of them may have never been shot in combat.

Overall, my tastes are closer to yours - I likely the historical cachet, but I really like weapons that are in very good shape, and I don’t have much interest in weapons that are not shooters. I really like my Schmidt-Rubin K31, in part because it has the id under the but of the soldier it was issued to in 1936. But it is also in immaculate shape (except for the stock, which I carefully streamed and refinished - thus destroying the value of the weapon as a collectable). It is also a heck of a shooter, or I would have gotten rid of it.

But people have different tastes, and that’s cool. I have never understood the “collecting” desire, whether its guns, model trains or Hallmark Christmas mantle ornaments - but a lot of people obviously due enjoy collecting.

I will be interested to see how big the market is for historical weapons in poor shape - especially those that are not shooters. I wonder if the demand will be more or less than the supply?

 

[Dain Bramage]

There are some quirks with the lottery system. Say you have your heart set on a service grade, but they're all sold out by the time your number is called. What choice do you have remaining; buy a field or rack grade, or get kicked out of line? What if someone later than you gets a chance for a service grade in the next year's offering? Seems I'd want more answers about the system before I send in that body scan application.

 

[czhen]

I'm still debating the purchase of a 1911 from CMP. Let me recap plastic (well polymer not being offensive) Glock last generation +/- $620.00 plus taxes, SKS around $430.00.
A WWII M1 helmet $450.00. So, $950.00 for a real piece of America history to go along with a Garand, sure I will do a couple of extra shift to cover that any day.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

sure I will do a couple of extra shift to cover that any day.

My 1911 money is coming out of my Alaska Permanent Fund Dividend. In other words, the oil companies. Dividends are disbursed the same week CMP starts drawing names.

 

[mljdeckard]

For that price, I would rather keep my eyes open for a Remington Rand at the gun shows.

 

[Mike P Wagner]

I'm still debating the purchase of a 1911 from CMP. Let me recap plastic (well polymer not being offensive) Glock last generation +/- $620.00 plus taxes, SKS around $430.00.
A WWII M1 helmet $450.00. So, $950.00 for a real piece of America history to go along with a Garand, sure I will do a couple of extra shift to cover that any day.

My thought is that a new Springfield Armory Mil-Spec is somewhere in the same ballpark (I think), and if I buy an SA and something is not working or breaks, it’s SA’s problem to fix. I also suspect that the SA is likely to shoot better and perhaps be more reliable. But I really don’t know much about SA products, maybe I am wrong about that.

It also pretty clear that I am missing the “likes collecting things” gene.

 

[czhen]

Mike P Wagner I'm not a collector by any meas. Just a gun/shooter aficionado since I was born with a clear inclination for metal & engineering.
I have as you said SA Load SS with adjustable sights in .45 acp and 9 mm both which gave so much pleasure at firing lane.
How long will last my Swedish Mauser Idk, my Russian Mauser capture idk as many others.
However, when I see how much I paid for my daughter iPhone which will be useless in 2 or 3 years.
Having to work few extra days to posses a real piece of history, I will clock in with gusto.
I wish I would have room and $ for collecting what I do I try to attach some background info (biography of the designer, books and the like) to any buy to force me to know more about firearms in general.
Mike maybe your collecting taste will chime in the future.

 

[MosinT53Hunter]

For me, I am just waiting to see what comes out. Should be interesting either way.

 

[Speedo66]

I went to the info page about current requirements for ordering a gun. They mention club affiliation and also marksmanship training. In the marksmanship training I qualify as both former military and former LEO. Is the requirement both club membership and marksmanship training, or one or the other?

I've ordered Carbine ammo from them in the past and I think the requirements were the same, but it was a long time ago and I don't recall the specifics.

 

[ford8nr]

Requirement is both.
There are some online options for club membership or the M1 Garand Assoc. for a resonable cost that meet the membership requirement.