Cold Steel War Hammer

[Sir Galahad]

I bought one of these a while back and just never got around to mounting the head and langettes it came with. Let me tell you, I should have done so at once! This is a great thing to have in the vehicle! It comes with a 30" hickory handle and steel langettes than protect the handle under the head. The head has a "raven's beak" point on one side and a hammer on the other. So, you can choose what side you need depending on the situation. The point penetrates plywood with ease. I can imagine it would go right through lesser things even easier. The balance is wonderful, one handed or two handed. I also have the Cold Steel Battle Mace and it's also nice, but the War Hammer is superior in my opinion. The war hammer swings faster, too.

The advantages over a bat need no explanation. The war hammer can still be called a "tool" for locales that forbid clubs. (for example, a geologists pick.)

 

[Gordy Wesen]

http://www.coldsteelstore.com/productinfo.aspx?productid=1738966&categoryid=0&startpage=1


Just tell 'em you do sheetrock.

 

[hso]

A geologist's rock hammer is a "geologist's pick". The Estwing Geo/Paleo Pick is an impressive prospecting tool that could be used as an expedient weapon to defend yourself with.

A Cold Steel War Hammer is a War Hammer (says so in their literature) and would make a poor tool.

Both can be had for the same price, but the "cost" of using either in self defense would be a little different.

A LEO might not know the diff, but a DA would go to the trouble to find out and then the jury would know.

 

[Sir Galahad]

Well, luckily I live in a state that doesn't care either way. I would add to my previous post that perhaps a geologists pick would be better for those in states that are anti-self defense.

 

[Tamara]

Sir Galahad,

Well, luckily I live in a state that doesn't care either way.

I dunno, man; plenty of potential-jury-pool good ol' boys and gals would be perfectly keen on you dusting a bad guy with a .357 or 12 gauge, but might get a little squeamish at you dashing out his brains with a war hammer or cleaving him in twain with a viking axe.

 

[Ed Brunner]

I have been told by at least one judge and a number of attorneys that posession of a firearm proves intent to kill. These are people who know so much more than the average person and are most unlikely to ever change their perspective. I have also seen juries return verdicts that are completely inconsistant with the facts of the case.
So, until we have total repeal of all laws which infringe the right of the people to keep and bear arms, we have problems.
As it stands, we have enough laws that everybody is guilty of at least one. Makes law enforcement a lot easier.

 

[Sir Galahad]

I don't think so, Tamara. The law has to prove the weapon illegal to rule defense with it illegal. Impact weapons are legal to carry in this state. So, I'm not going to worry about it too much. We had a case here a few years back where a guy was out at some guys' house threatening them with a bowie knife. Two guys were in the house. They were all drunk and they knew the guy with the knife. Still, one of them comes out and blasts the guy with the knife with a shotgun. Knife man lays there two hours when they finally decide to drive him to the hospital, where he died and that was how the police finally got involved in it. Guess how that incident was rule? Justifiable self-defense.

 

[Bruz]

The law has to prove the weapon illegal to rule defense with it illegal.

Agree with your principles, but would rather have 12 juriors told I bashed in the BG's head with a "geologist's pick" than a "war hammer", legal or not.

 

[Sir Galahad]

Geologist's pick doesn't have the reach of this thing. Being as you can carry batons and ASPs in this state, and people do (they're sold at the mall), it doesn't matter what it's called. I can understand "jury fear", but I'm not going to let that dictate what legal things I can carry. There is a train of thought that one should load their handguns with what the police use, even if that load is not as good as, say, a Gold Dot. Because the jury will like it better. I would bear in mind, the jury won't be there watching your back in a self-defense situation.

 

[Joe Demko]

Estwing has a larger selection of tools than you might have thought. Cold Steel's selection of psuedo-medieval weaponry is amusing but, especially with Lynn "Tanto" Thompson's over-the-top advertising, actually using any of it is like asking to have a DA paint you as a violent nutcase. Even in Arizona. Nowhere in the Estwing copy will you find any reference to their products as anything but geo tools. Of course, if you should happen to actually smite a blackguard with yours and the reeves give you a pass on it, please let us know and I will be the first to say I am wrong.

 

[brownie0486]

Sir Galahad:

It's all about intent when carrying it. What others are attempting to convey is that the "war hammer" is intended for one purpose and the name kinda says it all, it's a weapon. To carry it may show intent to harm someone with it.

The estwing hammer is sold as a tool. It's primary design is not that of a weapon, though it could be used as such. The hammer is more like an unconventional weapon that may be pressed into service in defense of ones self, unlike the war hammer whose only purpose is to inflict injury upon another.

Though you may not run afoul in carrying and using it for defensive purposes, some would not want to be painted with that brush from the starting gate if there were a trial relative your actions in an altercation with this weapon.

Brownie

 

[JShirley]

Thanks for the link, Golgo.

John

 

[Sir Galahad]

Understood.

 

[hksw]

Not to hijack the thread but,

is Estwing pronounced [EST·wing] or [EAST·wing]? Always liked their axes but haven't gotten one yet.

 

[Sir Galahad]

It's EST-wing.

 

[makdaddy03]

Use it to smash the New Berreta Neo with.

 

[hso]

While I like the Estwing geologists tools I prefer Gansfors Bruks for axes. http://treemanknives.com/tek9.asp?pg=products&grp=37

 

[Sir Galahad]

Taken to PM and email.

 

[IRONFIST]

It's all cool now ...taken to PM.

Michael in Sandy, OR

 

[Dr.Rob]

Aw, Tams, where's the fun in that?