colt 38 super duper

[brasskeeper]

What do you think of this?


http://www.coltsmfg.com/cmci/38Super.asp


The .38 Super was introduced in 1929 in the famous Colt Government Model 1911 auto pistol. At the time of its introduction the .38 Super was the most powerful auto pistol cartridge in the world. Colt is the only major American gun maker who has produced .38 Super pistols. The .38 Super is one of the most powerful and flat-shooting cartridges available for auto-loading pistols.

 

[Ankeny]

I think they need to hire a new techinical writer for their poop sheets.

 

[carpettbaggerr]

I think they should make some revolvers beside the SAA. What happened to the python, anaconda, detective special, cobra, magnum carry, official police, police positive................

http://www.coltsmfg.com/cmci/revolvers.asp

 

[otomik]

first of all, semi-rimmed cartridges are on my "dead to me" list. I mean who the hell do they think they are? are you rimmed or rimless? make up your mind, I have no patience for triangulating, fence-sitting cartridges. It's unamerican, semi-rimmed cartridges like 38 Super and .32ACP are for weasly consensus building UN, lets talk-it-over do-nothing neuters. People have been trying to make a version of .38 Super that doesn't suck for a while now, the classic problems are the semi-rim which leads to rimlock and the headspacing issues also stemming from the remi-sim which for years gave .38 Super a reputation for inaccuracy.

9x23mm Winchester is simply better, it solves all these problems and it's also got a stronger case becaues people tend to run this cartridge hot, a little hotter than .357SIG in fact. Get a 9mm Para Barrel or .22LR conversion kit for cheap practice.

colt's blood sucking union prevents them from making a quality product at a competitive value, the text is inaccurate and the major american manufacturer Kimber makes a .38 super.

Dane Burns loves 9x23mm and his site can tell you more
http://www.burnscustom.com/

 

[ewb45acp]

I like 'em...

I've got a 1911 chambered in super.38 and it's a hoot! Far more accurate than I am. Recoil is pretty low also. It is really a reloader's cartridge though, as factory loaded ammo is usually scarce. The original guns headspaced on the rim, and apparently it was less than perfect. They got a rep for being inaccurate. The newer guns (Colts at least) headspace on the case mouth and made real tack driver out of them.
If reloading for the super buy brass marked "super comp". I get mine from Starline. This does away with the, now pointless, semi-rim.

 

[tc300mag1]

I like the 38 super fun caliber to shoot and simple to reload for Mrs likes shooting it in the 1911 even more than a 45 and she loves shooting the 45's

 

[Range Hound]

I agree with TC300MAG1. I bouth a Caspian 1911 for my wife in .38 Super. She absolutely loves it. Low recoil for her and she can hit the steel plates at the range. While finding ammo is an issue, Dillon makes it easy to replinish at home.

 

[grendelbane]

I agree that the 9x23mm is a superior cartridge compared to the .38 Super. However, the .38 Super is still very much an AMERICAN cartridge! (As, of course, the 9x23mm is).

The .38 Super is descended directly from the .38 ACP. OK, so at the end of the 19th century, they had just started with auto pistols and their cartridges. The semi-rim is indeed a mistake. Even John M. Browning had to start some where. The .38 Super still works reasonably well, especially in single stack magazines.

If the German army had adopted the .38 ACP as their service cartridge, we would not have the 9mm Parabellum. It is one of those strange accidents of history that the 9mm Parabellum became popular. Look at the .38 ACP, .38 Super, 9mm Bergman-Bayard, 9mm Steyr, 9mm Mauser, 9mm Largo. Everyone in the world, (except the Germans, and even they came up with the 9mm Mauser), agreed that a 9mm cartridge ought to be about 23mm long.

I have a 9x23 pistol, and I love it. It is clearly a superior cartridge. The .38 Super is still as good now as it ever was, though. It still leaves most 9mm cartridges in the dust. It is very much an American cartridge, as is the .32 ACP. Yes, J. M. Browning had sense enough to get away from the semi-rim, and it is indeed a useless feature. However, it does not keep the .38 Super or the .32 ACP from being effective cartridges, in their respective classes.

A little media attention would have helped the .38 Super. Look at what dirty Harry did for the .44 magnum. The only author I can think of who armed anyone with a .38 Super is the writer of the Parker stories, and I think that he got most of his gun knowledge from looking at a catalog. (Which is a superior method to what most writers use.)

 

[brasskeeper]

colt's blood sucking union prevents them from making a quality product at a competitive value, the text is inaccurate and the major american manufacturer Kimber makes a .38 super.


http://www.burnscustom.com/

Its union must also be preventing them from hiring workers with enough knowledge to write a more accurate article.