Colt 6920 vs. LWRC Piston

[welshrabbit]

How would everyone here choose when comparing LWRC $2400 to a Colt $1300-$1500, virtually everyone here would choose the Colt. Is that true? My situation is this...I want an extremely reliable AR platform that takes PMAGs and will shoot the cheap training ammo with out problems, but also be able to send the serious ammo down range if I ever had to, but to keep things realistic the chances of that happening are, well I hope it never happens. I would also appreciate accuracy so long as it does not adversely affect reliability. Lastly since I hate to clean guns I would prefer it to be more maintenance free.

I do not know if I will ever supress it, but I like cool things and in the future I may be more willing to jump through the paper work and get one.

How does the LWRC piston compare to Colt on the famous chart and in your own minds?

What do you guys think?

Thanks.

 

[sgtdevildog]

I think most folks will say for your first stick with a DI system and Colt is the way to go. Having said that - my first AR was an LWRC in 6.8 - part of it was availability and part of it was I wanted the 6.8 cartridge. Much more expensive in the long run, but I love the rifle and the quality seems very good and clean up is a snap. YMMV

 

[anthony-white]

I have experience with the LWRC, a fine rifle indeed. The main thing about these rifles is that they come from the factory with all the upgrades you could ever hope to do(with the exception of a decent trigger). The one I ordered came with magpul miad grip, vltor stock, rail system, etc... So if you have the money I say get the LWRC, they are very well built rifles. If you dont ever plan to do upgrades, just get the colt...or save a bit and get a bushy, rra, or dpms.

 

[RockyMtnTactical]

AR15 maintenance is not that bad. In fact, I take no more time to clean my AR15's than I do ANY other gun. A little wiping down of the parts with disposable rags or even a paper towel, a brush through the bore, re-lube, and done. Nothing more, nothing less than with any other gun. It is a 10 minute job at most.

The LWRC's are very well done, but I would rather have 2 LMT's than 1 LWRC.

 

[gvnwst]

Neither, a POF carbine. $2k instead of $2400, piston (better design too) and it comes with a good trigger. It was my first AR also, and it has lived up to all i wanted. I had similar wants to you, reliable with cheap ammo, easy to clean, and so on, and it is. The BCG gets pratically nothing on it at all, just wipe it down, oil, stick it back in.

 

[Biggums]

Lwrc=shotgun

I bought a LWRC and the thing wouldn't group 12 inches at 100 yards. Sent it back and they fixed things supposedly but it still wouldn't group. Sent it a 2nd time and they still failed to get it to shoot.

They range fire at 25 yards and call that grouping at an inch. I shoot that with my 1911. Anyway get the Colt!

 

[gga357]

LWRC without a doubt. Agree with gvnwst POF is very good.

 

[TexasEd]

Go with the Colt or like model. For the money I don't see the need for a civilian to have a Gas piston system...unless you really want one. Cleaning the DI system does not take long. The parts for a DI system are easy to get and it's a fun gun to tinker on if you choose. If you don't choose to work on it the ability to find a gunsmith to work on the rifle and fix the DI system may be greater than the piston system. Good Luck

 

[W.E.G.]

LWRC = not worth it to me.

Colt is expensive enough.

 

[Guns and more]

What could you do with a LWRC that you couldn't do with a Colt? And have a grand to spare.
My Colt never misfires, is accurate, looks cool. Pmags work great.






Also, when it's time to sell, everyone will know the quality of Colt, and few will know LWRC. (as a matter of fact, I had to look it up, and I thought I had researched AR platforms as well as anyone.)

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

What could you do with a LWRC that you couldn't do with a Colt?

That is pretty much the question right there... what is it you perceive the LWRC will do that the Colt will not do? Is that perception accurate? Is it worth a $1,000 if it is?

As for the chart, the chart is meant to compare M4-style DI rifles and doesn't really have any use for comparing an M4 to a gas-piston.

For example, the LWRC does not have the type of staking required by the military because they have to make their "gas key" out of a much harder metal to withstand key shear and other forces not really present in a DI rifle. So you literally can't stake it using the military method for a DI rifle. So the fact the LWRC rifle had military approved staking would actually be bad for reliability in this case since it would mean the steel is soft enough that key shear might be an issue in a gas piston rifle.

 

[SHvar]

The 2 you listed, LWRC by far.
Colt are sold to LEOs and agencies for half of what retail gunshops gouge people for. In fact colt are the same price for any AR rifle sold in LEO supply stores, around $700-$900 (FA are less expensive for agencies).
I looked at S&W, BM, Colt, Stag, and others all on the same rifle rack at the LEO supply store I purchase things on occasion from, all were the same price, pre Obama pricing it seemed. They told me that the pricing never changed there because the scare would not effect their sales, and they cant gouge for pricing (although alot of what they sell is a bit overpriced).

 

[hags]

The 2 you listed, LWRC by far.
Colt are sold to LEOs and agencies for half of what retail gunshops gouge people for. In fact colt are the same price for any AR rifle sold in LEO supply stores, around $700-$900 (FA are less expensive for agencies).
I looked at S&W, BM, Colt, Stag, and others all on the same rifle rack at the LEO supply store I purchase things on occasion from, all were the same price, pre Obama pricing it seemed. They told me that the pricing never changed there because the scare would not effect their sales, and they cant gouge for pricing (although alot of what they sell is a bit overpriced).

Can you provide any reasons for your pick of LWRC versus the Colt other than you don't like Colt?
I see no real advantage for a semi-auto piston gun. They run alot cleaner with a surpressor but that's a none issue for me.
To follow RockyMtnTactical I'd rather have one Colt 6920 and an LMT Patrol model than the LWRC.
In fact, that is a choice I have already made.

 

[SHvar]

Where do you dream up that I dont like colt, I was the one who suggested a colt that was a great price for a friend of mine.
I like most brands of AR rifles, but after owning a piston rifle, and knowing of the reputation LWRC has for quality and seeing some abused on full auto, I would pick the LWRC.
There is no difference among most major brands of AR type rifles regardless of what so many in internet forums say.
My choice would be the piston rifle,
By the way, a little cleaner is like saying the grand canyon is a little bigger than a crack in the sidewalk. Alot cleaner than DI rifles is accurate.
My primary reason for getting the piston rifle is that I wanted one.
If I had a choice of whats not listed by the OP, POF would be a better choice.