Colt Cochise Commemorative

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This is the Colt Cochise Commemorative that I was allowed to take some pictures of at my local gunshop recently. The price tag on it was $1100.
I thought that folks might like to see it since the Colt Commemoratives are not often found on display.

These were informational posts made in reference to this model:

The Cochise Commemorative 3rd Model Dragoon is a Signature Series gun made somewhere between 1997 and 2002. Blue Book lists it at $995.00 NIB. Cochise models show up on the auction sites occasionally for around that price. I don't know how many of them were actually made.

This is a Colt Third Generation (Signature Series) model. The final manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) in 2002 for this model was $1,295.00. It's flashy, but to date there's not a lot of collector activity on this one. "EDITED" is right on the money for this model at about $1,000.00 although most I've seen went for less. The planned production for this model was 500 units. But there is no guarantee that many were actually produced. Its a travesty, but the records for third generation models are an absolute mess.

The pictures have been resized several times to give a variety of perspectives.

And I selected imageshack photo hosting for these pix because they do host them at full size. Click on each picture 3 times to be able to see it at full size and enjoy!















 
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Some nice work on that no doubt, but not to my taste. I perfer the 2nd gen Colts, just picked up my third one this am off GB. Did not believe someone listed a new, unfired 51 Navy for $360. I couldn't click 'but it now' fast enough. Though my lack of coffee was playing tricks on my.
 
Well if you're really feeling guilty about the low price, you can always send some extra money to the seller! :D

On this Cochise, the grips look like some kind of a nice horn material.
I didn't like the looks of this gun at first, but now it's starting to grow on me.
The black and gold look nice and not too over board. The gold cylinder resembles some super shiney brass except it probably won't tarnish over time. Those little gold wild horses racing up along the barrel to the muzzle. There's some simple yet expressive gold symbols there.
I would respect anyone who could shell out the money for such a commemorative and then go out and shoot it in honor of Cochise.
It's a tribute piece so the spirit of the honored person must be present there somewhere. I guess that's all in the eyes of the beholder though!
Although it's sort of ironic that the engraved cylinder depicts indians being slaughtered. But nothing less should be expected from a revolver produced by "the white man" anyway! :rolleyes:
 
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Although it's sort of ironic that the engraved cylinder depicts indians being slaughtered. But nothing less should be expected from a revolver produced by "the white man" anyway!

That is ironic. It's a nice looking revolver that's for sure.
This is the only fancy revolver that ever lite me up.
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Cochise

Chief Cochise

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Cochise's Wife

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Cochise Stronghold

The stronghold is where Cochise and his relatives lived for 22 years. Due to an incident at Apache Pass, the army set out to capture Cochise. Whenever the military would try to catch him, Cochise's sentinals on the viewpoints of the stronghold could see them approaching miles and hours away.

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Cochise (pronounced /koˈʧis/) (K'uu-ch'ish = "firewood") (c. 1815–June 8, 1874) was a chief (a nantan) of the Chokonen ("central" or "real" Chiricahua) band of the Chiricahua Apache and the leader of an uprising that began in 1861. Cochise County, Arizona is named after him.

Cochise was one of the most famous Apache leaders (along with Geronimo) to resist intrusions by Mexicans and Americans during the 19th century. He was described as a large man (for the time), with a muscular frame, classical features, and long black hair which he wore in traditional Apache style.

Cochise and the Chokonen-Chiricahua lived in the area that is now the northern Mexican region of Sonora, New Mexico, and Arizona, which were traditional Apache territories until the coming of the Europeans. Due to encroachment by Spain and later Mexico, the Chokonen and Nednhi-Chiricahua became increasingly dependent upon food rations issued by the Mexican government to placate them. When this practice was abruptly ended in 1831, the various Chiricahua bands resumed raids to acquire food.

The Mexican government began a series of military operations in order to either capture or neutralize the Chiricahua, but they received stiff resistance from Cochise and the Apache who were implacable foes. Mexican troops were largely unsuccessful in their attempts and were often fought to a standstill by the Apache. As part of their attempts at controlling the Chiricahua, Mexican forces, often with the help of American and Native American mercenaries, began to kill Apache civilians, including Cochise's father. This hardened Cochise's resolve and gave the Chiricahua more reason for vengeance. Mexican forces were finally able to capture Cochise in 1848 during an Apache raid on Fronteras, Sonora, but they exchanged him for nearly a dozen Mexican prisoners.

The region inhabited by the Apache had experienced increased tension between the Apache and European settlers (including early Spanish encroachment) from about 1831 until the greater part of the area was annexed by the United States in 1850, which ushered in a brief period of relative peace. Cochise worked as a woodcutter at the stagecoach station in Apache Pass for the Butterfield Overland Mail line.

The tenuous peace did not last as American encroachment into Apache territory continued. The formal peace ended in 1861 when an Apache raiding party drove away a local rancher's cattle and kidnapped his twelve-year-old son. Cochise and five others of his band were falsely accused of the incident (which had actually been done by the Coyotero band of Apaches). The six suspects were ordered by an inexperienced Army officer (Lt. George Bascom) to report to the fort for questioning. Although they maintained their innocence, the group was arrested and imprisoned.

The group soon mounted an escape attempt; one was killed and Cochise was shot three times but managed to slip away. He quickly took hostages to use in negotiations to free the other four Chiricahua. However, the plan backfired; both sides killed all their hostages in what was later known as the "Bascom Affair". Bascom's retaliation included hanging Cochise's brother and two of his nephews, which served to further enrage Cochise.

Cochise then joined with his father-in-law Mangas Coloradas (Red Sleeves, Kan-da-zis Tlishishen), the Bedonkohe-Chiricahua Apache chief, in a long series of retaliatory skirmishes and raids among the settlements. Many people were killed on both sides, but the Apache began to achieve the upper hand, which prompted the United States Army to send an expedition (led by General James Carleton).

At Apache Pass in 1862, Cochise and Mangas Coloradas, with around 500 fighters, held their ground against a force of California volunteers under General James Henry Carleton until howitzer artillery fire was brought to bear on their position.

According to scout John C. Cremony and historian Dan L. Thrapp, the howitzer fire sent the Apaches into an immediate retreat. But Carleton's biographer, Aurora Hunt, wrote, "This was the first time that the Indians had faced artillery fire. Nevertheless, they fought stubbornly for several hours before they fled." Capt. Thomas Roberts was persuaded by the engagement that it would be best to find a route around Apache Pass, which he did. Gen. Carleton thus continued unhindered to New Mexico and subsequently took over as commander of the territory.

In January 1863 Gen. Joseph Rodman West, under orders from Gen. Carleton, was able to capture Mangas Coloradas by duping him into a conference under a flag of truce. During what was to be a peaceful parley session, the Americans took the unsuspecting Mangas Coloradas prisoner and later executed him. This continued a series of incidents that fanned the flames of enmity between the encroaching Americans and the Apache. For Cochise, the Americans held nothing sacred and had violated the rules of war by capturing Mangas Coloradas during a parley session. Cochise and the Apache continued their raids against American and Mexican settlements and military positions throughout the 1860s.

Following various skirmishes, Cochise and his men were gradually driven into the Dragoon Mountains but were nevertheless able to use the mountains as cover and as a base from which to continue significant skirmishes against white settlements. This was the situation until 1871 when General George Crook assumed command and used other Apaches as scouts and informants and was thereby able to force Cochise's men to surrender. Cochise was taken into custody in September of that year.

The next year, the Chiricahua were ordered to Tularosa Reservation located in New Mexico, but refused to leave their ancestral lands in Arizona, which were guaranteed to them under treaty. Cochise managed to escape again and renewed raids and skirmishes against settlements through most of 1872. A new treaty was later negotiated by General Oliver O. Howard, with the help of Tom Jeffords who had become blood brother to Cochise, as the Americans relented to some of the Apaches' terms. Cochise quietly retired to an Arizona reservation, where he died of natural causes.

He married Nah-ke-de-sah, the daughter of Mangas Coloradas, in the 1830s. Their children were Taza, born in 1842, and Naiche, born in 1856.

Naches, son of Cochise with wife, 1884

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madcratebuilder nearly speachless wow... Now I can't tell if the Patterson is a real old patterson or was made to look old.

In a picture it is dam hard to tell if the ivory is real, but i suspect it is, and i suspect the gun is real and old...

The quill work is outstanding. and I wonder if most here have any idea what that costs to get done.

The blue russian faceted beads are antique, and many of the red white hearts appear to be but not all.

If the scabbard is antique which i doubt, it is extarodinary and even if it is a historical reproduction it still is... and to me, could be worth more than the gun is..
 
I also am interested in the story behind that Paterson.

The info on Cochise was a good read and the photos were awesome. I think anyone who is into bp weapons probably has quite an interest in history as well.

It kind of brought up the point that both sides were usually equally guilty in many confrontations. There was nothing socially or morally wrong for a plains Indian to go on a raid in their society, in fact, it was encouraged. That not only meant stealing horses and goods, but killing and stealing captives as well. There was never a recorded case of a woman being captured by Indians in Texas that wasn't raped. Indians were a rough bunch that held on a long time, displaced only by advanced technology and overwhelming numbers. But they resisted the advancement of the white man for over sixty years in Texas alone. We likely will never see another race or nation tougher than the Comanche, Souix or Apache were.
 
That's a beauty Arcticap ... those are the main reason Colt Licenced tha contract to run the 3rd Generation Colts. The shooter we get Colt 3rd Gen. are the icing on the cake and the last of the Colt Runs. I have the 3rd Gen. Sig. Colt Dragoon 1st Model that the 2nd Gen. din't offer.
That one a beauty...if you put that next to an Original '58 Remington for say $1000 I'd even have a hard time choosin'.

Thanks for all the pics Arcticap,

SG
 
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