ctdonath
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In an attempt to stop thread hijacking...
To achieve communism as a national cultural standard requires comprehensive disarmament of the people. As participation is practically involuntary*, anyone who develops a notion of capitalistic ownership must be denied the ability to enforce their own ownership of stuff. If people are not disarmed, they can effectively choose to be capitalistic instead of communistic, at which point a political avalanche begins and the nation turns largely capitalistic instead of communistic.
At one extreme, all people are fundamentally selfish & evil, and will take whatever they can from others; communism codifies theft into an axiomatic justification.
At the other extreme, even if all are good and seek the best for everyone, conflicts of interest will naturally arise, some of which can only be resolved by force.
Combining the two to find a realistic middle just becomes a mess.
Communism MUST fail, and give way to capitalism.
Communism cannot tolerate armed citizens.
It's just human nature to own stuff, to have interests that conflict with others', and to protect possessions & lives with lethal force**.
* - Are _you_ seriously willing to leave this country for sociopolitical reasons short of brutal tyrrany? Didn't think so. Few people leave their home countries for any reason.
** - By protecting possessions, I don't just mean your wallet or a few things, I mean anything and everything you hold dear can very well be taken from you. Nice house? precious goods? Thanks!
Au contraire, it MUST happen for a communist society (short of a very small and very voluntary one) to survive as such. The essence of communisim is "what's yours is mine", which requires that you not be able to stop me from taking/using your stuff ... but owning a firearm gives you the ability to say "no, that's mine, not yours" (which is the essence of capitalism). Human nature being what it is, conflict over ownership WILL arise, and at some point someone WILL (if armed) maintain possession of goods via lethal force. To contend that it won't is profoundly naieve, as is the notion that others (sociopolitical leaders in particular) wouldn't disarm the dissenter by equally lethal force to maintain their ideal.about the guns being taken away. In a truly communist society that would not happen.
To achieve communism as a national cultural standard requires comprehensive disarmament of the people. As participation is practically involuntary*, anyone who develops a notion of capitalistic ownership must be denied the ability to enforce their own ownership of stuff. If people are not disarmed, they can effectively choose to be capitalistic instead of communistic, at which point a political avalanche begins and the nation turns largely capitalistic instead of communistic.
At one extreme, all people are fundamentally selfish & evil, and will take whatever they can from others; communism codifies theft into an axiomatic justification.
At the other extreme, even if all are good and seek the best for everyone, conflicts of interest will naturally arise, some of which can only be resolved by force.
Combining the two to find a realistic middle just becomes a mess.
Communism MUST fail, and give way to capitalism.
Communism cannot tolerate armed citizens.
It's just human nature to own stuff, to have interests that conflict with others', and to protect possessions & lives with lethal force**.
* - Are _you_ seriously willing to leave this country for sociopolitical reasons short of brutal tyrrany? Didn't think so. Few people leave their home countries for any reason.
** - By protecting possessions, I don't just mean your wallet or a few things, I mean anything and everything you hold dear can very well be taken from you. Nice house? precious goods? Thanks!