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Compact Rifle for Lady

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Sparky123, Jun 21, 2012.

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  1. Sparky123

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    Hi, all - new here. On the hunt for a new rifle. Must be short LOP (12.5 - 12.75), stainless and light. That rules out Tika (14 LOP) and I can't afford a NULA. I've come down to Ruger Hawkeye Compact in .308. My first choice was 7mm-08, but backordered until who knows when. Next contender is a NIB Rem 700 LSS Mountain in 7mm-08. Third contender is Lady Hunter custom ordered with stainless barrel, which would mean wait time again for special build. Bear season opens Sept. 5 and I want to have time to get dialed in on it and break bad shouldering habits from trying to use a rifle that was too big for me, so I've got to make the decision ASAP. Seems every rifle I've considered is unavailable currently. Need to jump fast on any of the ones I listed above.

    I like the Hawkeye but I'm a bit leary of the muzzle blast on 16.5" barrel. The LSS has 22" barrel, but I'd have to have the stock cut down an inch, no big deal. Is that longer barrel better or is the maneuverability of the Hawkeye Compact the better choice? The LSS will probably come in about 1 pound heavier all dressed.

    Any other suggestions? I also do like Marlin XS7Y, but doesn't come in stainless, so still working on husband regarding that issue. He insists on stainless barrel and preferably 7mm-08, but other than that, whatever I like and try to keep it under $1,000 all together, with spending up to $400 on scope by using some gift cards for Cabela's.

    Sorry to be so long-winded. I've been reading the forums here and debates around lightweight rifles. Several have mentioned the Compact favorably. Any negatives?
     
  2. meanmrmustard

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    May I suggest Ruger M77 Mk II Compact in .260 Rem? My step mom is of petite stature, and this rifle works outstanding for her, and the calibers recoil is on par with a light 30-30.
     
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    The Hawkeye Compact is the updated Ruger M77 Mk II Compact, but .308 is the only caliber I've been able to find it in other than .223, and I want to kill a bear, not piss it off - LOL. Otherwise, .260 would be my next choice after 7mm-08. The Micro Hunter (or whatever they're calling it now) X-Bolt doesn't come in stainless and is impossible to find in anything but .243, although I think it does also come in 7mm-08 if I can find it online.

    Oh, forgot to add, don't bother with advice on which one shoulders best, because no one in the tri-state area I've been searching in has anything in stock for a youth or compact rifle, except the Savage non-accutrigger youth model, and I didn't care for it. I want a good quality rifle, not bottom of the line, it'll do until they grow into a full size rifle, because I'm not growing other than rounder.
     
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  5. cfullgraf

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    Shortening a stock is not a big thing. Most reputable gunsmiths should be able to do it well with their eyes closed.

    So, do not necessarily limit yourself to short rifles. You may find just the thing and just need to have the stock fitted.

    I am not necessarily recommending the Remington 700 but i am happy with mine. But, all three, well one is an XR-100, have new triggers and I have worked on the stocks to even or remove pressure on the barrel. One was my first attempt at glass bedding, which worked well, but added time and expense to the rifle.
     
  6. Kachok

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    If stainless is the key issue I would have to get a Tikka and have the stock trimmed, the T3 stainless is a hell of a rifle, light as can be and accurate far beyond what I have seen from other featherweight rifles, and more refined then rifles costing twice as much.
    The 7mm-08 is a fantastic cartrage for delivering alot of punch with minimal recoil, second only to the mid ranged 6.5s (6.5x55, 260 rem, 6.5 Creedmore and 6.5x47) in that regard.
     
  7. Sparky123

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    Has anyone trimmed down a synthetic stock? How did it work out? They don't make any aftermarket stock for Tika that I'm aware of, and a lot of gunsmiths won't cut down a laminate, although I did find one guy a few towns over. Just wondering how much it messes with balance of gun and if it looks like doggie-doo cutting down that plastic stock.
     
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    I don't think cutting down a stock 1 1/2" is going to throw off the ballance any noticeable amount given that identical action work with 22"-26" barrels, and very little of the weight is in the aft end anyway, though never cut down one myself. I am a small guy (5'5") and my factory Tikka fits me perfectly, I thought the LOP would be long for me too but it fit like a glove. It might be the nice eye relief on my Nikon that prevents it from feeling long since I don't have to strain my neck forward to get full light like with some rifles.
     
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    Just went through this with my wife.

    The 7mm-08 scout is a great rifle. Trying to find the new style ruger compact in SS was mission impossible.

    She absolutely loves it.

    You can see our search here :

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=657692&highlight=wife

    What She ended up with is the bottom rifle in the attached pic, which is a comparison of her rifle in 7mm-08, and my ruger target in .308

    She has a loopy scout 2.5 by 30 on it now, and it shoots real good.
     

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    I considered the Scout, too, but I believe they're discontinued. You were lucky to find one. They have the Gunsite Scout now, but I don't like that mag that hangs down and it's only available in .308.
     
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    A synthetic stock might be difficult to shorten, the butt stock area might be hollow.

    But I would think a laminate stock would be the same as a regular wood stock, just a bunch of layers of material glued together before the stock is cut and shaped.
     
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    Oops, you're right, Chuck. I mistyped there. I was referring to they wouldn't cut down the synthetic because it's hollow. Yes, the laminate shouldn't be a problem to cut down. Unfortunately, most stainless barreled guns come with synthetic stocks.
     
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    I wouldn't discount the 140 gr Sierra Game King. Wait...what the hell kinda bears are you hunting?!?!?!
     
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    Game Kings are great, but I only use them on thin skined game since they expand so quickly, and fragment a good portion of their weight. Accubonds are great for heavier game.
     
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    Remington Model 7
     
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    Both can be had in stainless, both can be found under $600. Ideally, you'd find a 2008 or older model. If you do find one pre-2008, it will only increase in value, unlike any synthetic stocked gun.
     
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    check on youth models
     
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    Synthetic stocks aren't that hard to have cut down. I've had it done several times on shotguns. The stocks were hollow as well. The gunsmith cut the stock then cut a piece of aluminum to bolt to the stock and then cut holes in the aluminum plate to bolt the recoil pad. I think it cost like $100.
     
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    Then they'd be ideal for black bear. Heck, there isnt a whole lot other than big bore critters that i wouldnt shoot with a 55 gr TSX .223, but thats me. But, the OP hasn't stated the species being hunted. Otherwise, .260 Rem would not be my choice for the larger bears available. .308 wouldn't be on my list either, but I'm a Missouri boy who don't hunt no bears! Best believe I'd be packing something a little more persuasive.
     
  23. Sparky123

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    Will be hunting black bear in uppermost northwest Wisconsin, 400 pound range, I'd say 30 - 50 yards, then whitetail in November. Thick brush mostly, although for deer I may sit on the field, which could be a 200 yard shot.
     
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    Have you looked at the Savage model 11 lightweight hunter. I have a friend who just bought one in a 6.5 creedmore. It's one sweet rifle.
     
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    Remington, Savage, Weatherby Vanguard, are all available in compact or youth models in carbon steel, and in full size stainless models.
    You could buy 2 rifles, swap stocks, sell the full size stock with the blued barrel, keep the short stock with the stainless.
     
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