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Comparing frames sizes between revolvers.

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Crawdad1, Oct 30, 2012.

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  1. Crawdad1

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    Here are some pics between the '51 Navy and a '62 Police.
     

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    Wish they came out better, though. :banghead:
     
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    Here might be a better comparison. Its in focus anyway.
     

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    Wow, there truly is a big difference.
    Thank you so much for postin the comparrisons Gil.
     
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    You are very welcome, sir. Buying that Police I had to buy new nipple wrenches, smaller sized nipples, everything is smaller. But its worth it. Now if R&D would only come out with a conversion cylinder for her I would be very happy.
     
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    If they came out with one I'd probably buy a 62' Police and a conversion cylinder for it. That would be pretty cool if you could actually fit a gate and an extractor rod on there too. Now that would be a neat little lead pusher! ;)
     
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    I thought the 1862 Police was a .36cal?

    They do have .32S&W conversion kits for the 1849 Pocket.
     
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    That's right, it won't work the Police is a 36 cal barrel.:eek:

    I see now why they haven't developed one. That frame is so small and maybe they just can't get it to work safely enough to use a 38 long colt bullet in that small of a frame. :(

    I erased the 32 S&W to avoid confusion.

    Thanks Craig for pointing that out.
     
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    The idea of a 38 CF conversion cylinder was kicked around and because of the little amount of material left after chambering, it is not feasible. A conversion of the 31 caliber is possible and I believe it is cataloged.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised, that's a lot to pack into such a small sixgun.

    Hey treblig, can you post a pic of the cylinders of the two guns? Maybe a ratchet end view.

    Possibly a .41Colt Model P Jr. would scratch the same itch???
     
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    Craig, Saturday I am going to enter the 20th century and buy myself a digital camera. I think I've reached my limit with these 35mm cameras and film development at the local drug store. :banghead:
    I'll get those pics up comparing the two.
     
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    In the day they used to have cartridge conversions of them
     
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    Correct, the heeled bullet that was in common usage at that time allowed the conversion to be possible. The inside lubed bullet, common today, does not allow the cartridge to fit the cylinder in a safe manner. Also, back in the day, folks were less likely to find a lawyer when a gun blew up. Today it is strictly a liablility problem.
     
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    And they ran at blackpowder pressures.
     
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    Craig, here are the pics you wanted to see. Comparing the cylinders between a '62 Police and a '51 Navy, both 36 caliber.
     

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    Dang, that's a really big difference. More than I expected. Thanks for posting!
     
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    Craig, I know what you mean, there’s not much metal there to convert to either a 38 long or short colt. I figure the only way to make a conversion cylinder for the Police is to eliminate the flutes and make it a rebated cylinder. Even after that there still may not be or I don’t think you have enough metal there so there may be no hope for any future conversion cylinder. Its still a great little 36 caliber to tote around in the woods and you have a lot more power there than the '49 Pocket and you do have the option of getting the 6 1/2" barrel.
     
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    I agree!
     
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    You are descibing the cylinder for the Pocket Navy, the octagonal barreled version of this revolver. Not enough there to rework either, unfortunately.

    Another reason the old ones could be converted is the companies basically "controlled"the ammunition factories. Very few folks hand loaded and of the ones that did handload, the majority of them stayed with rifle cartridges. A very few target shooters handloaded revolver ammuntion and they weren't shooting pocket revovlers.
     
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    And all they had to worry about back then was blackpowder. With the state of the union, nanny state lawyers and irresponsible shooters, improper smokeless loads would be a real danger.
     
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