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Confused in many ways. Really need help

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Greetings,

I don't want to mess up, so I am turning to you all.

First of all, I think I found the best price for 44 caliber including shipping. If someone knows a better place, please let me know. I spent the whole afternoon looking.

Secondly, Here is a first link:
http://nationalbullet.com/index.php?name=44_Cal_Bullets

They say they have coperized and hard cast.

When I click on <click here to place an online order> button on the left and I click on hard cast bullets and 44 cal, It looks like they only offer hard cast. Am I wrong? If so, how do I get to the coperized ones?????

Secondly, if I buy the hard cast ones (not coperized)
1 - They claim their bullets are hard and have no leading or (almost no leading). Does it seem right?
2 - I never leloaded cast bullets (just FMJ), do I reload the same way by simply putting the bullet in the case and do my stage 3 and 4 on my dillon 55b like I do usually or do I have to prepare the bullets? If so, what do I need to do?

Thank you
 
Others have had severe issues with NBC.

If it were me, I would shop elsewhere.

Maybe www.keadbullets.com

Good bullets, plus they're a hell of a lot cheaper.

Load em with lead/cast data from published data sources.

The mechanics of the loading process is the same. Bullets are ready to load right out of the box.
 
I had a bad experience with them. They charge your credit card the day you order. And then I spent 3 months hearing "expect them at the end of the week" before I cancelled the order. They never refunded and I stopped payment.

Mike
 
As far a cast bullets go you may want a little more flare on the case before seating the bullet. This will help keep the lube on the bullet instaed of the outside of the case. Other then that they load the same. If you run more then one powder you might try them all, I have found some powders work well with this lube but not with that lube. For example I like titegroup with redline bullets seems to smoke less then bullseye or red dot, but with my own bullets and blue angle lube the red dot is better then the titegroup and bullseye. Just my own expierence try it out for yourself see what you come up with.
 
Greetings,

About the cast bullets (keadbullets too), can I push those with 23 grains of H110 with not much leading?

I bought the 44 Magnum Super Redhawk because my wife likes to shoot hot loads that produce recoil. The jacketed (JSP) 300 gr bullets cost 192/1000 and the 240 JSP cost 132/1000. It is quite a difference in price when you compare with cast lead bullets.

Another stupid question: Do you remove leading simply using Hopes #9 and a lot of scrubbing with a brass brush?

Thank you
 
Ive been buying most of my components from Powder Valley. They are a top notch company and their prices are fair. I'm very happy with their customer relations too, they keep you updated through email and shipping is fast.
 
I would avoid NBC. Check out their Better Business Bureau rating.

I cast most of my own bullets from scrounged lead. But I have purchased bullets from http://mastercastbullets.com and been really happy with both the bullets and the service. If I ever run low on .309 or .312 cast bullets, I'll probably order again from Mike because I don't cast those yet.


I use a Lee universal expanding die instead of a normal expanding die when loading cast bullets (it also works with most jacketed pistol bullets): http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=140461
 
O.K.

They say they have coperized and hard cast.

2 - I never leloaded cast bullets (just FMJ), do I reload the same way by simply putting the bullet in the case and do my stage 3 and 4 on my dillon 55b like I do usually or do I have to prepare the bullets? If so, what do I need to do?

Thank you

Forget copperized. It is plating and in a magnum means nothing. Looks good and helps in a low powered gun. The gold plating on Remington .22 rimfire is a form of plating.

To load a lead bullet, you need a case mouth that is not too tight. The jacket will expand a tight mouth. Softer lead... if you shave lead off the bullet, you have a less accurate round and the accumulation messes up your reloading set up. Lyman makes a "m" die to put a slight "bell" on the mouth of the case. I think LEE has one. This slight "bell" keeps the bullet intact and makes for a better load.

Your load of 110 does not sound unreasonable, but when you work lead bullets at these levels, leading is hard to avoid. b). 110 is a slow powder. If it needs resistance to burn, jackets have alot more friction in the barrel than greased (lubricated) lead... It might not burn well. Or burn dirty. 110 has a great rep, but I wouldn't hesitate to load a hot .44 Special load for the .44 Mag and keep the cleaning down.

Cleaning, modern solvents, say Shooters Choice, will dissolve lead. Hoppes #9 is LAME, LAME, LAME. It will but will you live long enough to care??? You will need to give them time and then stir them up, brass brush or plasitic bristle brush... Wipe Away works good too but little costly. It is a bit more work than jackets unless you are one that has to get ALL the copper, but for the savings... I can spare the elbow grease... luck.
 
I thought long and hard about making my first real post on this board a negative one....that being said, I would agree with those who have advised you to shop around. Also, a second to mastercast, I have had great service from them and will buy there again.
 
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