Confused on transfers?

[gadgetguy1288]

Well My 2 spikes lowers got to my FFL yesterday, and my bushmaster that i ordered came in today. I went there this afternoon to pick them up and when he called the FBI number they told him i was not old enough to make the transfer! WHAT?!?!?! Im 20 yrs old, turning 21 in December. He called them back to talk to someone higher up and they told him that im able to transfer the rifle, just not the receivers. how can that be???? Back in July I had purchased a stag stripped lower while on vacation in WI, and everything went fine! I got back here to AK, and decided I was going to buy a complete rifle before getting into a build, and sold it. But i was still able to have it transfered to me!!!!! did the law change since July?

SOMEONE HELP ME!!

I really don't want to have let my lowers sit at my ffl, and hold off on my 6.8 build for 4 months!!

 

[nalioth]

"Receivers" are neither "hand guns" or "long guns".

They can be turned into a hand gun or a long gun, and so are transferred as a "hand gun".

You have to be 21 to buy a pistol from a dealer.

 

[545days]

I suspect that if you took your butt stocks and uppers to your FFL, screwed the buttstocks on an stuck the uppers on the receivers you will have turned the receivers into rifles, which could then be transferred. If your FFL wants, he can take pictures of the assembled rifles as proof of their transformation.

However: I AM NOT A LAWYER, so my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it!

 

[NavyLCDR]

I suspect that if you took your butt stocks and uppers to your FFL, screwed the buttstocks on an stuck the uppers on the receivers you will have turned the receivers into rifles, which could then be transferred. If your FFL wants, he can take pictures of the assembled rifles as proof of their transformation.

However: I AM NOT A LAWYER, so my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it!

The FFL would lose their license. In order to assemble the rifle from components that are on the FFL's books, they have to have a manufacturing license.

Unfortunately the OP is the victim of the new 4473 and the associated rules change. Best bet would be if the FFL is willing to hold on to the components until December.

 

[jak67429]

When I bought my lower had to pay the extra pistol transfer for the state. Asked why the dealer told me they have to sell them as a pistol.

 

[CleverNickname]

"Receivers" are neither "hand guns" or "long guns".

Correct.

They can be turned into a hand gun or a long gun, and so are transferred as a "hand gun".

Not quite. The law states that a transferee has to be 21 to have a gun transferred to them by an FFL, then provides an exception for rifles and shotguns, which can be transferred by an FFL to people over 18. A stripped receiver (just like a handgun) is not a rifle or shotgun, so the exception doesn't apply. The fact that the receiver can be later turned into a handgun doesn't matter.

 

[Quiet]

Not quite. The law states that a transferee has to be 21 to have a gun transferred to them by an FFL, then provides an exception for rifles and shotguns, which can be transferred by an FFL to people over 18. A stripped receiver (just like a handgun) is not a rifle or shotgun, so the exception doesn't apply. The fact that the receiver can be later turned into a handgun doesn't matter.

This is the truth.

 

[545days]

NavyLT,
Thanks for the explaination.