Yes, it's true that's how ATF has operated pre-Bruen.
ATF ain't gonna budge until SCOTUS rules.Keep in mind 5th/6th Circuits just kicked ATF's butt regarding the bump stock.
I have a feeling you don't know the first thing about physical disabilities and how they impact federal firearms law. If you think the Americans with Disabilities Act applies.....you ain't read a shred of the ADA.I have a feeling Circuit courts may have revealed how they would rule for Pistol Brace, especially since it's a modern "arm" to accommodate "physical disability".
1. ATF won't do a damn thing.Anyways, we should find out in about a week what ATF will do and how Congress will respond in light of recent Bruen/federal/circuit court rulings.
SCOTUS already ruled for Bruen in June of 2022 by eliminating the TWO-STEP approach used for decades by courts/states and now REQUIRED to only use "TEXT and HISTORY" approach. I do believe that's what's driving much of what IS TO COME moving forward in coming years.ATF ain't gonna budge until SCOTUS rules.
Yeah, well, SCOTUS ruled in US vs Thompson Center nineteen years before ATF issued their ruling.SCOTUS already ruled for Bruen in June of 2022 by ELIMINATING the TWO-STEP approach used for decades by courts/states and now REQUIRED TO ONLY USE "TEXT and HISTORY" APPROACH. I do believe that's what's driving much of what IS TO COME moving forward in coming years.
You really think the ATF Director feels "pressured"? I don't. He'll continue with business as usual.At this point,pressure/ball is in the ATF director's lap as to how to respond/clarify demand made by Congress as he was not able to demonstrate post-Bruen "text and history" analysis WAS NOT DONE for the Pistol Brace FINAL RULE.
"History in the making"?And we get to see HISTORY in the making in about a week as to how ATF director will respond to Congress' demand to "clarify" his recent statements made before Congress while being REPEATEDLY TOLD, "YOU DO NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY" OF CONGRESS.
A lot of pontificating. A lot of pandering to constituents. A lot of hearings where Congressmen threaten stuff that never gets done.Any guess as to what may happen moving forward post-Bruen?
One of many jobs I performed during 26 years working for the state of CA was Standards Compliance Coordinator position (Later as federally certified and state licensed surveyor of healthcare facilities) where I had to coordinate/verify compliance to all applicable county/state/federal codes, laws and regulations for different projects/agencies/facilities including ADA requirements to such things as wheelchair ramp approach angle/ramp distance and landing size for turning, location of toilet away from walls to be accessible by wheelchair, amount of force required to actuate the flushing of toilet, etc. etc. (But let's not go too far into details of ADA as I am not a FFL and know little about firearms sale/registration requirements and convey that to your expertise)I have a feeling you don't know the first thing about physical disabilities and how they impact federal firearms law. If you think the Americans with Disabilities Act applies.....you ain't read a shred of the ADA.
5th/6th Circuits just kicked ATF's butt regarding the bump stock. I have a feeling Circuit courts may have revealed how they would rule for Pistol Brace, especially since it's a modern "arm" to accommodate "physical disability".
Great news!Any guess as to what may happen moving forward post-Bruen? ... So let's wait and see what ... Congress/courts do
And substitute any and all of the big institutions in place of ATF when they run both overt and covert operations on Americans, including political foes, parents of school children, whistle blowers, journalists, or anyone else the regime would like to target. This includes all of them; DOJ, FBI, CIA, IRS, ATF... all of them.1. ATF won't do a damn thing.
2. Some members of Congress will pontificate and bluster.
3. Congress will do nothing.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.And substitute any and all of the big institutions in place of ATF when they run both overt and covert operations on Americans, including political foes, parents of school children, whistle blowers, journalists, or anyone else the regime would like to target. This includes all of them; DOJ, FBI, CIA, IRS, ATF... all of them.
Congress demands ATF explain why pistol brace doesn't violate 2A in light of Bruen
Do you know, how we know, you've never been a gun dealer?
A "Distributor" is just an 01FFL Dealer who doesn't sell to the public.
Right now, today, there are distributors that don't want dealers who aren't ordering $1Mil a year. Or refuse to open accounts with FFL's who don't have a retail storefront. Their salesmen want 20-40 accounts buying $5Mil a year, instead of a thousand plus accounts buying $10K per year.......and you really expect those distributors to deal directly with you for your next gun?
So.....you think you are going to get better pricing buying direct from a "distributor" or from a dealer who does $1Mil + a year with that distributor? Think about why buying from the dealer may be cheaper for you.
Palmetto, KY Gun, Primary, Bud's often offer retail pricing less than my wholesale price from a distributor......guess how that happens?
Want the newest SIG P365XQG fifty rounder? Think you'll be able to get it from one of those distributors? Think again. High demand items are allocated to a distributors best customers.
Once again, please keep "off topic" discussion out of the thread and stay "focused" on the OP ... Thanks.Well, you are still missing the point I was trying to make….
If an FFL was not required to sell firearms, then other retailers could sell firearms, like they did before dealer licensing was the law. I am not saying distributors would sell to the public.
Congress demands ATF explain why pistol brace doesn't violate 2A in light of Bruen
So......with all that expertise in the ADA, tell me what part of the ADA addresses firearms. One doesn't need to be an FFL to know the answer.One of many jobs I performed during 26 years working for the state of CA was Standards Compliance Coordinator position (Later as federally certified and state licensed surveyor of healthcare facilities) where I had to coordinate/verify compliance to all applicable county/state/federal codes, laws and regulations for different projects/agencies/facilities including ADA requirements to such things as wheelchair ramp approach angle/ramp distance and landing size for turning, location of toilet away from walls to be accessible by wheelchair, amount of force required to actuate the flushing of toilet, etc. etc. ......
ADA prohibits discrimination against people with disabilities in everyday activities to ensure people with disabilities have the same opportunities as everyone else to enjoy employment opportunities, purchase goods and services, and participate in state and local government programs - https://www.ada.gov/topics/intro-to-ada/what part of the ADA addresses firearms
Opinion, maybe?Congress doesn't decide if a law is constitutional or unconstitutional. That's the role of the judiciary.
Congress can change laws they dislike.
I agree ... This from Politico - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/17-states-join-goa-gof-and-sue-atf’s-new-firearms-rule-on-80-percent-kits.908730/page-2#post-12633715[ATF] job is enforcing the laws already written, it's up to other branches to create and interpret laws.
ADA prohibits discrimination against people with disabilities in everyday activities to ensure people with disabilities have the same opportunities as everyone else to enjoy employment opportunities, purchase goods and services, and participate in state and local government programs - https://www.ada.gov/topics/intro-to-ada/
This is from 2010 ADA Standards which combines 28 CFR 35 and 2004 ADA AG - https://www.access-board.gov/files/ada/ADA-Standards.pdf
243 Shooting Facilities with Firing Positions
243.1 General. Where shooting facilities with firing positions are designed and constructed at a site, at least 5 percent, but no fewer than one, of each type of firing position shall comply with 1010.
1010 Shooting Facilities with Firing Positions
1010.1 Turning Space. A circular turning space 60 inches (1525 mm) diameter minimum with slopes not steeper than 1:48 shall be provided at shooting facilities with firing positions.
Congressmen, not Congress. They can demand answers all day long. ATF doesn't have to explain anything.But this thread is focused on "Congress demands ATF explain why pistol brace doesn't violate 2A in light of Bruen"
But judge McGlynn just wrote this - https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicycoalition/pages/6708/attachments/original/1682714280/99(Barnett)_Order_of_PI_of_042823.pdf?1682714280The courts won't consider jack squat about the supposed reason for an arm brace because the NFA applies to the firearm, not the person.
Congress demands ATF explain why pistol brace doesn't violate 2A in light of Bruen
Matt Gaetz mentioned defunding ATF to "Zero out their salaries for breaking the law and abusing the liberties of Americans" - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...in-light-of-bruen.916923/page-3#post-12631924Congress. They can demand answers all day long. ATF doesn't have to explain anything.
Same thing existed back in 1776 as larger coastal city states mob majority wanted to impose on the minority rights of the smaller rural states and why the founders chose Constitutional Republic with Electoral College instead of pure Democracy with Popular Vote.
Remember that the Bill of Rights was added later because it was necessary to ensure certain rights.
And just as there are today law makers and executives/governors who write and pass unconstitutional laws, same happened back in the founding days and why the founders separated the government powers into three branches with the Supreme Court having the final say to overrule when other two branches violate our rights.
What about enforcement of Supreme Court rulings? That depends on "We the People".
Just as law makers and executives/governors wrote and passed unconstitutional laws to violate the First Amendment, Supreme Court kept ruling them unconstitutional until permanent enforcement took place by state/federal laws written and passed by law makers and executives/governors elected by "We the People".
And same will happen for the Second Amendment as Supreme Court will keep ruling anti-2A state laws unconstitutional until permanent enforcement takes place by state/federal laws written and passed by law makers and executives/governors elected by "We the People" ... Guess what happened in 2022? "We the People" elected law makers to the House who are more pro-2A.
And we now have a Supreme Court bench make up with more "Originalist" justices who are pro-2A and I anticipate more pro-2A rulings in the future - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...r-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-9#post-12421616
This nation once supported slavery and kept women from voting.
"We the People" corrected the injustices of the past and I have faith "We the People" will honor the Bill of Rights amendments to protect the right of the people to defend themselves, especially the weak, frail and disabled elderly and women from criminals/attackers/intruders/home invaders/murderers/rapists.
Just as "We the People" acted to protect minority slaves and women, I believe "We the People" will act to protect minority gun owners who do not want to be victims ... As already expressed by 2022 election and anticipated 2024 election and we will see what happens in 2026.
In the words of justice Gorsuch, "We the people can do this ... We can govern ourselves."
Long live the Republic.