Connecticut House bill 6667 passed

[stonebuster]

Connecticut is the latest to pass an "assault" weapon ban. It bans all sales/transfers and to retain ownership of currently legally owned said weapons must be registered by May 1 2024. It also bans open carry and carrying in any establishment, including restaurants, that sell alcohol for consumption. It cracks down on FFLs even further and seems to be saying any irregularity or honest error would lead to revocation of their license. It's 70+ pages so there's a lot more to it but obviously the "Constitution state" is isn't.

 

[Ethan Verity]

I hate the whole 'banning carry in places that serve alcohol' thing... like, why should I not be allowed to effectively defend my own life in this establishment, just because there is some guy over there having a beer? Might as well have a "no driving to/from any facilities that serve alcohol" law while we're at it. I'm glad I don't have to worry about that in PA!

Anyway, no surprise this happened in CT. Doesn't effect me much though, as a US citizen who just happens to live in another state, I'm already not allowed to exercise my 2A rights anywhere in CT... not just places that serve alcohol.

 

[F-111 John]

I hate the whole 'banning carry in places that serve alcohol' thing... like, why should I not be allowed to effectively defend my own life in this establishment, just because there is some guy over there having a beer? Might as well have a "no driving to/from any facilities that serve alcohol" law while we're at it. I'm glad I don't have to worry about that in PA!.

Because just as concealed carry turns every fender bender into a "shoot-out at the O.K. Corral," concealed carry in a bar would turn every bar fight into another "O.K Corral."

The fact that their predictions about fender benders has never come to pass won't stop them from using the same false logic in bars.

Michigan also has a 'no-carry' law for any establishment that makes more than 50% of their income from the sale of alcohol for on-premises consumption.

 

[Old_Grouch]

and seems to be saying any irregularity or honest error would lead to revocation of their license.

Can a state revoke a Federal license?

 

[stonebuster]

I hate the whole 'banning carry in places that serve alcohol' thing... like, why should I not be allowed to effectively defend my own life in this establishment, just because there is some guy over there having a beer? Might as well have a "no driving to/from any facilities that serve alcohol" law while we're at it. I'm glad I don't have to worry about that in PA!

Anyway, no surprise this happened in CT. Doesn't effect me much though, as a US citizen who just happens to live in another state, I'm already not allowed to exercise my 2A rights anywhere in CT... not just places that serve alcohol.

After reading the bill that prohibition looks like it may have been eliminated by an Amendment if I read it right. I originally posted after reading what was proposed. It also proposes any firearms in your home have to be secured in a locked container. If a thief breaks in and steals a gun that's not locked up you can be charged with criminal negligence. Increases training requirements for CC permit & as originally proposed 10 day waiting period for firearms purchases which are limited to 3 a month.

 

[Pistolay]

Connecticut is just a weird state when it comes to guns. Even though it's a "may issue" state, it has acted more like "shall issue" as long as you're clean. My wife and I (and several of my friends) had no problems getting our permits. OTOH, lots of restrictions and bans. On balance, I'm glad we moved to New Hampshire when we retired. They love their guns up here.

 

[stonebuster]

Can a state revoke a Federal license?

I believe Connecticut FFLs also need a state license that can be revoked for any violations. EDIT: After scanning 73 pages, Ct. is requiring both state & local licenses in addition to FFL license now.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Can a state revoke a Federal license?

Some states require a state license to deal in handguns in addition to the Federal Firearms License required by the 1938 Federal Firearms Act. Such states can revoke a state license. Some state handgun dealer license requirements date back to the 1920s. Some require a handgun dealer to have a brick and mortar store open to the public with parking available, mailing address, phone number and a bathroom with toilet.

 

[F-111 John]

Some states require a state license to deal in handguns in addition to the Federal Firearms License required by the 1938 Federal Firearms Act.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 is the current controlling law regarding Federal Firearms Licenses.

 

[Frank Ettin]

Some states require a state license to deal in handguns in addition to the Federal Firearms License required by the 1938 Federal Firearms Act.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 is the current controlling law regarding Federal Firearms Licenses.

Is there a point to your post?

Yes, "federal licenses." But some States require, in addition, a state license to deal in firearms.

 

[F-111 John]

Yes, Mr. Ettin, there is. Correcting an incorrect citation. As you are fully aware, the FFA of 1938 was rescinded and replaced by the GCA of 1968.

 

[Frank Ettin]

Yes, Mr. Ettin, there is. Correcting an incorrect citation. As you are fully aware, the FFA of 1938 was rescinded and replaced by the GCA of 1968.

Well, that's true enough, but I don't see that being an issue with CNB's post:

Some states require a state license to deal in handguns in addition to the Federal Firearms License required by the 1938 Federal Firearms Act. Such states can revoke a state license. Some state handgun dealer license requirements date back to the 1920s. Some require a handgun dealer to have a brick and mortar store open to the public with parking available, mailing address, phone number and a bathroom with toilet.

I think his point is that licensing of gun dealers by States even pre-dates federal licensing -- which began with the 1938 Federal Firearms Act.