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Seller is listing it for $1700 as follows, and I'm curious if the board thinks that's a fair price.
Here's the ad minus the beautiful stainless rifle pics in a custom stock with adjustable comb and weaver rail:
It's a Savage 116 stainless steel .300 Win Mag, bought in '07, & was shipped to Fred Moreo at Sharp Shooter Supply in Ohio for a complete accuracy overhaul.
Fred Moreo is a very well known Savage gunsmith - you can check out one of his benchrest builds here -
http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek040.html
...and if you scroll to the bottom of that page you can read an interview with him; "TECH TALK with Fred Moreo--The Dean of Savage Smiths"
When I finally got the rifle back, I put my Leupold 3.5x10 on it, got it on paper at 50 yds, and made a one hole group (at 50) while beginning the break in (which I never finished). I started a log at the time, but cannot find it now. I believe the round count is exactly 20. Basically speaking, because it is a Savage, this is a poor mans bughole rifle.
I never went on to explore just how accurate this rifle could be... it needs a new owner who will take the time to bring reloading equipment to the range and work up some loads right at the bench. It has never been dropped, disrespected, or within earshot of harsh language. Accuracy wise, it should run right along with the Big Name "remmys" that cost twice as much.
Why am I selling?
I'm an IPSC pistol shooter, and I have discovered I just don't have the patience to play the bolt action accuracy game. This rifle has never left the safe, and if it sells I could better deploy that money elsewhere.
Why only an 18" barrel?
Before I had this built, I had been doing quite a bit of long range shooting with a friend of mine who had recently attended GPS Sniper training in Arizona (formerly the McMillan Sniper School and the HS Precision Sniper Program) . One of the core beliefs at GPS with regard to rifle accuracy is that inherent accuracy increases as barrel length decreases (most shooters tend to believe the opposite). You can read the article at GPS's website here...
http://www.sniperschool.com/sniper-rifle-barrel-length
I'm no expert - but my limited experience has shown this to be quite true. Shortening makes the barrel behave more like a thicker barrel, and a thicker barrel will experience harmonics of less amplitude when the round lights off, which in turn lessens the potential to cause deviation in the bullet's flight path. My 1st build was a $300 WalMart Savage 7mm Rem Mag - I had a local smith cut the barrel down to 17", mounted it myself in a Choate folding stock, and then had no problem getting the bullet holes to touch each other at 100yds.
The "devil's advocate" argument against all this short barrel accuracy logic is, of course, loss in velocity. This is true, but that's why I made it a Win Mag. The bullet is still supersonic out past 1000.
The details (what went into it)
Savage 116 .300 Win Mag stainless steel rifle $650
Laminate tactical /varmint stock $325
• w/ Butt Hook $25
• Adjustable comb $50
• Anschutz rail $30
18" Douglas Air gauged barrel $325
Badger Ordinance FTE (Front Toward Enemy) muzzle brake - $135
Farrell 20 MOA scope base - $115
Gunsmithing
• True & time action - $125
• Install & headspace barrel - $50
• Pillar bed laminate stock - $115
• Barrel Fluting - $125
• Bed and install scope mount - $50
• Thread barrel & install muzzle brake - $75
Total ~ $2195 into the rifle
Sharp Shooter supply link...
http://www.sharpshootersupply.com/
Asking $1680 -- If you factor in the 4 boxes of Black Hills ammo, basically I am asking $1508 for this rifle.
Here's the ad minus the beautiful stainless rifle pics in a custom stock with adjustable comb and weaver rail:
It's a Savage 116 stainless steel .300 Win Mag, bought in '07, & was shipped to Fred Moreo at Sharp Shooter Supply in Ohio for a complete accuracy overhaul.
Fred Moreo is a very well known Savage gunsmith - you can check out one of his benchrest builds here -
http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek040.html
...and if you scroll to the bottom of that page you can read an interview with him; "TECH TALK with Fred Moreo--The Dean of Savage Smiths"
When I finally got the rifle back, I put my Leupold 3.5x10 on it, got it on paper at 50 yds, and made a one hole group (at 50) while beginning the break in (which I never finished). I started a log at the time, but cannot find it now. I believe the round count is exactly 20. Basically speaking, because it is a Savage, this is a poor mans bughole rifle.
I never went on to explore just how accurate this rifle could be... it needs a new owner who will take the time to bring reloading equipment to the range and work up some loads right at the bench. It has never been dropped, disrespected, or within earshot of harsh language. Accuracy wise, it should run right along with the Big Name "remmys" that cost twice as much.
Why am I selling?
I'm an IPSC pistol shooter, and I have discovered I just don't have the patience to play the bolt action accuracy game. This rifle has never left the safe, and if it sells I could better deploy that money elsewhere.
Why only an 18" barrel?
Before I had this built, I had been doing quite a bit of long range shooting with a friend of mine who had recently attended GPS Sniper training in Arizona (formerly the McMillan Sniper School and the HS Precision Sniper Program) . One of the core beliefs at GPS with regard to rifle accuracy is that inherent accuracy increases as barrel length decreases (most shooters tend to believe the opposite). You can read the article at GPS's website here...
http://www.sniperschool.com/sniper-rifle-barrel-length
I'm no expert - but my limited experience has shown this to be quite true. Shortening makes the barrel behave more like a thicker barrel, and a thicker barrel will experience harmonics of less amplitude when the round lights off, which in turn lessens the potential to cause deviation in the bullet's flight path. My 1st build was a $300 WalMart Savage 7mm Rem Mag - I had a local smith cut the barrel down to 17", mounted it myself in a Choate folding stock, and then had no problem getting the bullet holes to touch each other at 100yds.
The "devil's advocate" argument against all this short barrel accuracy logic is, of course, loss in velocity. This is true, but that's why I made it a Win Mag. The bullet is still supersonic out past 1000.
The details (what went into it)
Savage 116 .300 Win Mag stainless steel rifle $650
Laminate tactical /varmint stock $325
• w/ Butt Hook $25
• Adjustable comb $50
• Anschutz rail $30
18" Douglas Air gauged barrel $325
Badger Ordinance FTE (Front Toward Enemy) muzzle brake - $135
Farrell 20 MOA scope base - $115
Gunsmithing
• True & time action - $125
• Install & headspace barrel - $50
• Pillar bed laminate stock - $115
• Barrel Fluting - $125
• Bed and install scope mount - $50
• Thread barrel & install muzzle brake - $75
Total ~ $2195 into the rifle
Sharp Shooter supply link...
http://www.sharpshootersupply.com/
Asking $1680 -- If you factor in the 4 boxes of Black Hills ammo, basically I am asking $1508 for this rifle.