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Conversation in a Book Store

Discussion in 'Legal' started by ZeSpectre, Jun 17, 2007.

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  1. ZeSpectre

    ZeSpectre Member

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    The wife and I were in Barnes and Noble bookstore today and I remembered that I wanted to pick up a new copy of “More guns less crime”. Darned if I could find it so I went to the customer assistance counter where a young man of about 25 years of age asked if he could help me.

    Me: “Hi, yes, I’m trying to find a book and I can’t seem to find the right section of the store.”
    Him: “Sure, what’s the title?”
    Me: “More guns Less crime” by John Lott
    Him: “Hrmph, that’s a bit of an oxymoron isn’t it?”
    Me: “Really? Why do you think so?”
    Him: “Because guns cause crime.”
    Me: “Guns cause crime…isn’t that like saying that cars cause drunk driving accidents or spoons cause people to be fat?”
    Him: “Well they do.”
    Me: “Are you SERIOUSLY telling me that you believe inanimate objects like cars or spoons cause problems and not the choices of the people who use them?”
    Him: “Well guns …empower… people and that makes them do things they wouldn’t do otherwise.”
    Me: “Man you watch too much TV. Guns don’t have some zen-voodoo mystic ability, they don’t “make” anyone do anything they aren’t already prone to doing. Bad guys do bad things, guns or no guns, and good guys don’t do bad things, guns or no guns.”
    Him: “Well I don’t believe that, more guns never make a situation better.”
    Me: “I tell you what, if you promise to give it a read I’ll buy TWO copies of the book and give one to you so you can read some studies on the topic.”
    Him: “Nah, that’s okay.”
    Me: “Well if you aren’t going to educate yourself on the topic then I guess this conversation is done. Would you please help me find the book now?”

    He did, I bought my copy and left.
     
  2. Outlaws

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    There are only two types of guys that work in book stores..... One that is, and one that just doesn't know he is. I'll leave it to everyone to figure out what is is.
     
  3. tepin

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    .......

    Me: “Hi, yes, I’m trying to find a book and I can’t seem to find the right section of the store.”
    Him: “Sure, what’s the title?”
    Me: “More guns Less crime” by John Lott
    Him: “Hrmph, that’s a bit of an oxymoron isn’t it?”
    Me: “Why are you calling me a moron? I want to speat to the manager"

    :D
     
  4. freakazoid

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    lol, :)

    I would like to work at a bookstore, :(. Well, as long as I get some kind of discount, :)
     
  5. Sage of Seattle

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    You: “Really? Why do you think so?”
    Him: “Because guns cause crime.”
    You: “Guns cause crime…isn’t that like saying that cars cause drunk driving accidents or spoons cause people to be fat?”
    Him: “Well they do.”
    You: “You'd better turn in your car then, right quick... you're just an accident waiting to happen! Good thing you warned me. There's no way I'd want to be on the same road as you because you might just go crazy and want to take me out with you.”
    Him: “Well guns …empower… people and that makes them do things they wouldn’t do otherwise.”
    You: “Like take responsibility for their own protection?”
    Him: “Well I don’t believe that, more guns never make a situation better.”
    You: "Tell that to the million plus people who successfully defended their lives and property last year, the vast majority never even firing a shot."

    Yeah, I'm learning slowly but surely how to respond to these things, especially after my phone call with that attorney a few weeks back.
     
  6. wacki

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    You handled it well. Although I would add a few things:

    I tend to be a little more blunt than most.
     
  7. baz

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    I'm surprised they even had the book on the shelf. I'd have expected it to be a special order.
     
  8. Finch

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    I worked at Borders for about 6 months. Never in my life have I ever been surrounded by more hippie liberal socialists in my life....and I've been to Berkley.
     
  9. Crunker1337

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    Your last line made me LOL.

    Nice try, but some people are beyond hope. Fight the battles that you can win.
     
  10. speedball

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    They are all working on their phd in socioligy. Seriously, I used to date one that worked there.:)
     
  11. Kali Endgame

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    2000 years ago, this guy would be residing in the gut of a large carnivore.

     
  12. .cheese.

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    Apparently you've never been to a national juggling convention.
     
  13. ancient_philosophy

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    people like that are lemmings, theyre a stereotype, the "lay down and die" when danger comes.

    give me his name and the bookshop location.

    im in KY, but i was forced to live in San Francisco for a year, made me puke.... i battled every anti-gun loser there i could, i always won. ;)
     
  14. The Lone Haranguer

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    Might it be worthwhile to have a chat with the manager? That clerk is there to serve customers, in your case finding the book you were looking for, not editorializing. Perhaps he would be more comfortable working somewhere else, since B&N carries a full line of gun magazines.
     
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    You handled it fine. You were only there to get the book anyway.

    My cousin worked at Borders for a few months,and I think he's got the makings of a libertarian.
     
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    congrats, and yes, that last line was outstanding, good work.
     
  17. Don Gwinn

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    Me: “Hi, yes, I’m trying to find a book and I can’t seem to find the right section of the store.”
    Him: “Sure, what’s the title?”
    Me: “More guns Less crime” by John Lott
    Him: “Hrmph, that’s a bit of an oxymoron isn’t it?”
    Me: "No, it's not. Shut up and fetch my book, Book Monkey."
     
  18. bogie

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    Hmm... I'm guessing that you may have met my little brother... Degree in chemistry, and he's gone through life trying to join the circus, because he refuses to work for The Man.

    Gwinch, the proper comeback...

    "So, if you were holding a gun, you'd shoot someone?"

    "Duh... Probably."

    "Okay. You need some serious psychiatric counseling about your violence issues, and you really need to be kept away from guns and sharp objects. Could you call your manager so I can discuss the hazard you face to the store's customers?"
     
  19. ProguninTN

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    Don Gwinn

    :D:D:D
     
  20. outerlimit

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    Barnes & Noble is where the local "moms against guns" or whatever Brady bunch goofballs meet up according to the website, though I've never seen them there.
     
  21. stevelyn

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    Very polite way of calling him an idiot.:D:D
     
  22. LAK Supply

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    Aaaahahahahahahaha! ROFGLMAO!!!!
     
  23. oneslowgun

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    "shut up and fetch my book, Book Monkey".... Dangit, I'm a grown man, and 40yr. olds aren't supposed to giggle like little girls. Worst part is, I just know that phrase is gonna randomly pop into my head over the next few days.
     
  24. helpless

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    Book Monkey, I shot diet pepsi out of my nose.
     
  25. theken206

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    watch mouth call me "ox-moron"
     
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