Cost Efficient Build of a Benchrest Rifle?

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What brand of action and barrel would be the most cost effective components on making a custom benchrest rifle in say a 22-250 caliber? For instance a 26 to 30" barrel around 1", possibly larger diameter at the muzzle. Can I purchase the action and barrel already assembled?
Thanks for your responses.
 
Cost effective and custom do not go in the same sentence. Figure that any custom rifle is most likely gonna be minimum 2x what a factory one is.

I'm not sure the reasoning on .22-250. I've owned several. While they can be somewhat accurate, they typically won't match the accuracy of a more traditional target caliber (.222, 6br) and probably have 1/3rd the barrel life.

My S-I-L has a Savage in 6br. Quite accurate and factory ready.

If you're really set on a custom, try the For Sale at Accurate Shooter (the 6br forum) they have used rifles based on Remington and other actions.
 
Agree with redneck2. .22-250 was pretty popular in benchrest at one time. Then Remington came out with the .222 with better accuracy and longer barrel life.

The 6mms came in later, there is a competition division in which 6mm is the minimum caliber then lo and behold the shooters found that a 6mm could be just as accurate as a .22 so they didn't need to keep up two rifles.
 
What are you considering to be cost effective?

What do you mean by "benchrest rifle?" Are you talking about a heavy rifle you can enjoy firing from a bench at targets for pleasure, a bench rifle for colony varmints, or about a competition ready rifle? If competition, which type and which range? There's a big difference in precision tolerance between these two options, and of course, if you're talking competition, your WEIGHT matters, so recommendations for different action type/brand would change based on which class you're after. Cartridge will also change depending on whether you're looking to compete or not, and at what range.

Factory Savages and factory blueprinted Remington's - or cheaper custom Remington clones - can do well for recreational shooters, even keep pace in some light rifle competition, but you don't see many of them on highly competitive firing lines for a reason.

.22-250 doesn't even begin to smell my list of choices for a competitive benchrest rifle. A heavy varmint rifle fired from a bench, sure, not a competition rifle.

Since you're asking the question about buying a barreled action, it sounds like you're going to be best served by calling a smith or a barrel & action maker (shilen, for example) or other custom gun builder (McMillan, for example) and talking through your wants. You can likely find a rifle which suits your needs and won't involve a lot of technical understanding for selecting your components on your own. They'll already have that knowledge.
 
Savage/Stevens action

Choate stock

Shilen barrel

Spend on good glass and it'll be years before you can load to and shoot to this setups maximum accuracy potential


I second the Savage action. In fact, if cost effective is what your looking for skip custom all together and just buy a Savage rifle and add some glass, slide it in a custom stock if that's your thing and then go shoot. My 110 "build" in .338 Lap Mag cost a right around 2 grand and I'm currently putting 10 shot groups into the 5.5" range at 1000. Stock rifle with good glass and my handloads. Factory loads were still good for 6" 10-shot groups at a grand. I'm far from a pro shooter, also.
I also have a Savage Axis in .223 and it's an MOA shooter right out of the box with factory ammo and I routinely shoot that rifle at 300-500 with only a 9 power and still hit just fine. A guy I shoot with uses a tuned up Axis in .223 with 80 and 100gr handloads at the 1000yd range and does very well.
For your situation I would consider A) what your using it for and B) how much you want to spend. If the answer is I have 5+ grand and I want a long range competition gun then go custom sure. If the answer is you want to get away on a budget and just have a capable rifle to shoot long range from a bench, just find a nice off the shelf rifle in a caliber you desire and then buy a quality optic, and your all set. After that all you need is time and ammo to dial it in and enjoy her. Caliber choices are abundant these days, a good stand by are military calibers such as .223/5.56x45 and .308/7.62x51. Either of them can be capable long distance rifles with the .308 having more actual useable energy at long distance. I don't much prefer the .222 and .22-250 personally because I think with a little ingenuity and testing you can handload .223 to just about do everything they can, plus the benefit of commercial ammo being much cheaper/readily available. Newer calibers can be very effective too though, 6.5 Creedmor for instance is excellent. My "cheapie" Ruger American bolt gun in 6.5 is a sub MOA shooter with good ammo and an all around excellent rifle. Thing was like 380 bucks out the door. We live in good times for shooting, lots of great options out there.
 
Savage/Stevens action

Choate stock

Shilen barrel

Spend on good glass and it'll be years before you can load to and shoot to this setups maximum accuracy potential

I have this EXACT setup on a Stevens action and it's a terrible picture. It shoots a lot better than I can. 6 shots under an inch with most handloads and it's not picky.
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$180 stock, $360 barrel, donar action, $145 trigger, $500 scope, $150 base and rings. What does cost effective mean to you.
 
I've been shooting a Savage 6BR F Class rifle for six years in 300 and 600 benchrest matches. I currently have two Savage PTA actions, and two barrels, a 6BRX by X-Caliber and a 6 Dasher by Shilen.

My suggestion: start with the complete Savage Benchrest or F Class in 6BR, and then decide if you want to replace the barrel. I've also owned and shot barrels by CBI, including .260 Remington and 6.5X47 Lapua. You get a lot of flexibility this way. YMMV.

The 6 Dasher/BRX competes out to 1000 yards....low recoil and enhanced barrel life. I agree that the 6.5 Creedmoor is also a good choice...for more variety, get a Savage action and add a 6XC or 6.5X47 barrel.

George
 
What accuracy level at what ranges are your objectives?

Kreiger and Bartlein barrels are popular in benchrest. A Win 70 action will twist less from barrel torque than any round action and have been used to build rifles that shoot as precise as possible. A Weaver T24 scope for $500 is as good as a $2000 scope that's the rage for accuracy buffs. Fixed power scopes are more repeatable than variables.

Two 2x4's glued together then inletted for epoxy bedding the action enable accuracy as well as a conventional stock. If you plan on using bags to rest the rifle on, the stock has to be shaped to fit them. A 2-ounce trigger is best for precision shooting.

Check out www.accurateshooter.com
 
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Bruno's offers benchrest rifles for sale. The classifieds on Benchrest Central and Accurateshooter list rifles occasionally. If I were to build another it would be a Bat or Kelbly action, Krieger barrel, McMillan stock, Jewell trigger and chambered in 6PPC or 6BR. This pretty much describes what I have now. Not sure if cost effective but was/is not cheap.
 
What brand of action and barrel would be the most cost effective components on making a custom benchrest rifle in say a 22-250 caliber? For instance a 26 to 30" barrel around 1", possibly larger diameter at the muzzle. Can I purchase the action and barrel already assembled?
Thanks for your responses.
 
2-ounce trigger is best for precision shooting.
Why is a 2-ounce trigger the best? If 2-ounces is good why wouldn't a 1-ounce trigger be better, or a 1/2-ounce trigger better yet? Just asking..
 
We all used to shoot 2 ounce triggers when I still shot Benchrest. Is any big maker putting out a dependable one lighter than that these days?

Anyway, 2 ounce is plenty good to shoot very accurately with, and there are many factory stock guns that can shoot better than most/many of the people buying them.

Some good suggestions so far.
 
A 2-ounce trigger will go off if you bump the rifle. So will anything less than that. Triggers that light are for use on ranges by experienced Match shooters, only. They're unsafe anywhere else.
Barrels don't taper small to larger.
I'd suggest you buy a standard heavy barreled varmint rifle. What brand doesn't make much difference. .22-250 hasn't been competitive in BR shooting since before. Varmints though...
 
Why is a 2-ounce trigger the best? If 2-ounces is good why wouldn't a 1-ounce trigger be better, or a 1/2-ounce trigger better yet? Just asking..

Keeping them reliable below 2oz is a challenge.

A lot of shooters (myself included) have trouble feeling trigger sensation at 2oz and below. I've gone back and forth between being a "picker" and a "runner" since our wind conditions are often too variable to stick with running all the time. When I'm picking, I'll come in and out of the trigger at times, and even at 2oz, it's difficult.

Did I miss it somewhere, or do we still not know from the OP what type of "benchrest" shooting he's looking to do? The appropriate action - repeater vs. single, huge flat walled Panda vs. a round 700 clone - the appropriate stock, and the appropriate cartridge will all depend upon the application.
 
Keeping them reliable below 2oz is a challenge.
Not at all, I set the B&A triggers on my bench rifles to about 14 grams and they are highly consistent. It's mainly a matter of what the individual shooters prefers, and since B&A triggers became available many shooters have gone to lighter pulls, just as I have.
But, Mr. Varminterrror, as you suggest, there has never been a clear definition as to what type rifle the OP actually wants. To those of us who are active in benchrest competitions the term Benchrest rifle means only one thing: a rifle sufficiently accurate to compete in actual competition while staying within the rules and configurations prescribed for the sport. However, to the more casual recreation shooter "benchrest" shooting usually refers only refers to plinking off a bench with whatever rifle one chooses. As is made obvious by a survey of previous contributions to this thread. If the OP actually wants a rifle with the degree of accuracy normally identified with a true competition grade bench rifle, and wants it at a bargain price, I would advise him to attend a major benchrest tournament, such as the Supershoot, and check out the used rifles offered for sail. I've seen top quality rifles offered for quick sale at prices at, or even less, that of what some shooters invest in cobbled together Savage based rigs.
 
I suggested a 2 ounce trigger because I think that's as light a person should use if it's their first one under a pound. Almost chose a 4 ounce one.
 
Again next buy a factory savage 12 lrp in 6.5 Creedmoor and you will get an amazing trigger and more accuracy than 99 percent of people. And @ $1100 or so.
 
I got the fingers if a ballerina, a big ol' 300 pound steel dancing gorilla. If I set my trigger down to 2oz I doubt I could feel it before it fires.

Then there is the safety of having a 2oz trigger. I suggest, if you ever plan on hunting with it, go to at least 6-8oz. Only because you may cycle it really fast in a hunting situation and you may want to use a glove.

If OP got the got the LRP I'm sure it would adjust down to a good comfortable light pull. Probably save a few bucks. But then it wouldn't be very"custom".

I would recommend the 222 over the 22- 250.

A good barrel length would be 23". longer is not necessarily better. If you want to wring the last 50fps out of a cartridge, then you need the length.

The longer the barrel is, the higher quality it needs to be. Especially in pre chambered barrels. You actually have to pay for someone to care enough to ensure the muzzle end of the bore is not looser than the chamber end and the rifling doesn't loose twist.( Neither of these factors are notable in factory barrels)
 
Cost effective and custom do not go in the same sentence.

Sure they do. I could spend $5k on a completion rifle but I'm not going to do that. And never did I ever mention formally competing. I just enjoy shooting the tiniest groups against my buddies and for self satisfaction. The only reason I mentioned 22-250 is I reload for it. I sold a 22-250 Encore barrel and now I have nothing in that caliber but I think I'd like to replace it with a heavy bull barreled bolt-action. I am open to a heavy 7mm-08 rifle as I reload for it also and only have a 15" Encore handgun in that caliber.
 
Sure they do. I could spend $5k on a completion rifle but I'm not going to do that. And never did I ever mention formally competing. I just enjoy shooting the tiniest groups against my buddies and for self satisfaction. The only reason I mentioned 22-250 is I reload for it. I sold a 22-250 Encore barrel and now I have nothing in that caliber but I think I'd like to replace it with a heavy bull barreled bolt-action. I am open to a heavy 7mm-08 rifle as I reload for it also and only have a 15" Encore handgun in that caliber.

If you do go for the 7-08 then Shilen makes a 4 groove ratchet barrel in 7mm. That's what mine is and I love it.
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it's a very tight twist 1:8 but it shoots everything great.
 
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