Could buy a suppressor/silencer but haven't? Why not?

[expvideo]

What about the whole getting your police chief or county sheriff to sign off bit? How's that even done?

Just do a trust. You don't have to worry about it. I did a trust and when I went to the class III dealer, he took my money, went into the back room for about 15 minutes, returned with 2 forms and had me sign them, then told me he would call me when the ATF sends the approval. The whole process took about 20 minutes and I signed 2 papers. Only slightly more complicated than buying a handgun.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

Thanks, Matt

So all I've got to do is take my CHL into a gun shop and purchase one?

 

[expvideo]

So all I've got to do is take my CHL into a gun shop and purchase one?

If the gun shop will do the trust for you, then all you need is your ID. A CHL doesn't hurt.

 

[ACBMWM3]

There's a solution to that: WA House Bill 1604.

"AN ACT Relating to firearm noise suppressors; and amending RCW 9.41.250. "

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=423471


If you're a WA resident with any interest at all in expanding firearms rights, I'd encourage you to contact your reps about this bill. I would, but moved to TX in 2005. I'd certainly like to be able to use a suppressor if I move back.

I already did! everyone please do the same.

 

[BADUNAME37]

In my state, they are not allowed (read: illegal to own).

I guess poachers would be shooting deer, moose, black bear and what have you all hours of the day and night.

Hey, in the vote, I think the word 'now' needs to be replaced with the word 'not'.

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[MatthewVanitas]

I guess poachers would be shooting deer, moose, black bear and what have you all hours of the day and night.

Doesn't that sound a little bit like "if we legalised AR-15s in California, all the gangbangers would be murdering each other with them?"

People that are out breaking laws by poaching probably aren't going to be too concerned about NFA legalities either. A poacher can easily rig up a makeshift silencer, good for a couple shots, just with stuff laying around the house. Strap it on with duct tape, and chuck it in the trash after the night's hunt.


That's part of why controlling suppressors so tightly makes little sense: any criminal who truly wants one can rig one up with the barest minimum of effort.

 

[waterhouse]

What about the whole getting your police chief or county sheriff to sign off bit? How's that even done?

It depends on where you live. Here, I mail in the 2 copies of my form 4 with a letter asking them to please sign part 17. About a week later they are back in my mailbox with a signature.

Some places you have to go do it in person, and some places won't sign off at all.

Basically you call your CLEO and ask and see what they say you need to do.

 

[MrToad]

I have no need for one.....can't think of any reason I would.

 

[cerberus65]

At the moment I'd rather spend the money on ammo and reloading supplies. Well, once prices recover a bit from all this panic buying...

 

[Izaak Walton]

No use for one, or guns or toilet paper or oxygen…

 

[rfurtkamp]

Just hearing BATFE people talk on the radio makes my eyes bleed. Having to have direct contact with them would simply be intolerable. It's the same reason why I don't own a machinegun or SBR.

"Direct contact" is just laughable. The most contact I've had is callling to check on status at the office, and they've been nothing but courteous and reasonable.

 

[Ranb]

The people that you and I deal with on the phone at the BATFE are civil servants. They do not make policy, they are there to serve you. Ever heard of anyone who submitted an ATF form 1 or 4 properly and was denied transfer or registration of a title 2 weapon? Probably not, because they are not allowed to just deny approval unless there is a valid reason.

The ATF that I have dealt with as a title 2 weapons owner and as an FFL (90-94) were polite and helpful.

The political lackeys that make up the top levels of the ATF are another matter. Reserve your venom for them and the leaders that appoint or hire them.

 

[BADUNAME37]

Don't get me wrong,

I would love to have one. I have an anti-gun neighbor who complains when I shoot varmints and pests around my place. I would love to have a legal silencer for my 22 target pistol, as you would hardly even hear it (from a distance, my neighbor surely would not hear it at all, as I have seen various ones on YouTube and am impressed with how silent they really are on certain guns).

However, I think in order to get one would be impossible, or next to impossible.

I would use it the way I shoot now -- completely legal.

 

[Agent47]

To those who see no appeal for silencers I would recomend trying one. They are insainly fun to use, After owning hunreds of guns each one stared to feal like all the others. After getting into silencers my passion for shooting was rejuvinated. Immagine shooting a .45 with the recoil of a 9mm and the noise polution of a paintball gun. No bulky earmuffs no painfull earplugs, relaxing at the outdoor shooting range enjoying the sounds of birds churping as you send hot lead downrange it's indescribable. Not to mention their potential for use training, my little brother couldn't enjoy shooting due to the recoil and muzzle blast. I put my silenced sig220 combat in his hands and he spent the afternoon nailing eight inch balloons at one hundred yards.

 

[expvideo]

To those who see no appeal for silencers I would recomend trying one. They are insainly fun to use, After owning hunreds of guns each one stared to feal like all the others. After getting into silencers my passion for shooting was rejuvinated. Immagine shooting a .45 with the recoil of a 9mm and the noise polution of a paintball gun. No bulky earmuffs no painfull earplugs, relaxing at the outdoor shooting range enjoying the sounds of birds churping as you send hot lead downrange it's indescribable. Not to mention their potential for use training, my little brother couldn't enjoy shooting due to the recoil and muzzle blast. I put my silenced sig220 combat in his hands and he spent the afternoon nailing eight inch balloons at one hundred yards.

Hey... I know you
Welcome to the highroad.

 

[freakshow10mm]

I guess poachers would be shooting deer, moose, black bear and what have you all hours of the day and night.

That's why suppressors are controlled in the first place. The Fish and Wildlife Dept thought that at the time, during the Great Depression, people would use suppressors to poach game thus pushed for their strict control. Originally the NFA of 1934 only included machine guns, short barreled weapons, and AOWs (handguns were considered AOWs, but these were left out when it was thought unkind to force women to pay a tax to protect themselves). Suppressors were added at the behest of the F&W Dept with typical political muscling.

 

[CoRoMo]

The word 'expensive' is a relative term.

For a physician, attorney, or any other well paid occupation, paying $1,000 (tax-stamp included) for a silencer is worth while.
For me... I hope to one day get one for less than $500 if at all possible. Just too expensive for me, to be worth while.

 

[AVESguy]

I really want one. or two. For a 9 mm Handgun and long gun, either an AR or a 10/22. But I have to set up a trust here in s. Florida and just haven't gotten to it yet. I will one day.....

I can come up with the money but not the time or bother. Yet.

 

[freakshow10mm]

Most people can sell one or two guns and buy one or two suppressors with the money. The argument of suppressors being uncannily expensive is hilarious.

Want cheap? Get a YHM Mite for $200 plus a $200 transfer tax. $400 you can get a suppressor for your .22. Then go from there.

 

[DHJenkins]

Well, this thread convinced at least one person (me) that it's not too much of a hassle. I'll be talking to my FFL this weekend - thanks go to everyone for the info!

 

[erict]

Most people can sell one or two guns and buy one or two suppressors with the money. The argument of suppressors being uncannily expensive is hilarious. 

Want cheap? Get a YHM Mite for $200 plus a $200 transfer tax. $400 you can get a suppressor for your .22. Then go from there.

My little Gemtech Outback II was $300 plus the $200 stamp. That's cheaper then a Glock so I agree that the "too expensive" arguement is a little funny too.

 

[freakshow10mm]

Guns I have to sell to raise money for suppressors:

Saiga 12 shotgun
Franchi LAW 12 shotgun
Desert Eagle .50 chrome
HK P7

So there's about $2200-2500 worth of guns I could dump and get a few suppressors. Maybe a .22 rimfire, .223, and a .45 pistol can including transfer tax and everything.

 

[Davionmaximus]

Suppressors are cooler than Christmas!!
I would love to have one. Especially for hunting. Would be nice to fire on a deer and not scare everything in a quarter mile radius...

 

[waterhouse]

So there's about $2200-2500 worth of guns I could dump and get a few suppressors. Maybe a .22 rimfire, .223, and a .45 pistol can including transfer tax and everything.

That's the attitude I have. If you assume the low end of your estimate, and take out the $600 in taxes, you'll have $1400 to get suppressors with. My .45 can, .22 can, and .223 can total almost exactly that.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

However, I think in order to get one would be impossible, or next to impossible.

I would use it the way I shoot now -- completely legal.

Is that because you're in one of the few states that just doesn't allow them? Check the above list: if you're in a state that doesn't prohibit them (most states), you can buy a suppressor with less hassle than it takes to buy a handgun in Illinois.

In your circumstance, where legally shooting without bothering neighbors is a goal, a suppressor would be ideal.