Cowboy Action v. 3 Gun, head to head: who would win?

[Tizona]

Saw this posted n another site, and it got me thinking:

A Duel In the sun

"Imagine a match that pitted three of the top Cowboy Action Shooters in the world, against three of the Top 3 Gun shooters in the world! Each shooter would shoot a 3 Gun stage with the appropriate guns, a cowboy stage, with the appropriate guns, and a hybrid stage, with the other team's firearms.

Who do you think would win?

Because it's happening, this weekend. And it will be a television program..."

Sounds cool! And it is happening this weekend!
Tiz

 

[Smokin Gator]

I know there are some people who are good cowboy shooters who also shoot other types of matches, including modern 3 gun. I don't think as many of the modern 3 gun shooters would have the cowboy action experience. For that reason, I would give the edge to the cowboy shooters. But, it really depends on exactly which shooters from both sides are competing in the match. Mark

 

[ny32182]

I don't quite understand the original premise, but if you mean that cowboy shooters have to tackle a 3gun stage with their cowboy setup, they will lose. They will be reloading on the clock for 15 minutes per stage.

Plus if they have to take any non-short range rifle shots, they will likely not be able to do it with the "rifle rounds" they are shooting.

 

[Tizona]

That's true, Gator. More, from another site:

"Now, on to.....just who are the competitors???

The Cowboy Action Shooting Team:
Badlands Bud, Lead Dispencer, and Holy Terror...

The 3 Gun Team:
Dianna Lierdorff, of Team FN, Iain Harrison, Winner of the First Season of Top Shot, and Kalani Laker, From Team STAG.

Both teams are comprised of not only some of the most skilled shooters in the world respectively, but some really fun and inspiring personalities. The air is thick with great sportsmanship, wonderful attitudes, camaraderie, and friendly competition! "

Going down at Wes Thompson's Range this weekend...

Tizona

 

[NWcityguy2]

Cops vs Cowboys, every year in Las Cruces NM. I missed it this year but something tells me the guys shooting ARs, Glocks and Benellis beat they guys shooting lever actions, single actions and side by sides. Just a guess, but there it is all fun and games.

 

[mavracer]

When and what channel, I got to see that.

 

[Smokin Gator]

NY32182.
Each shooter would shoot a 3 Gun stage with the appropriate guns, a cowboy stage, with the appropriate guns, and a hybrid stage, with the other team's firearms.

I don't know the exact setup, but it says that the shooters will shoot the stage with the appropriate firearms. I take that to mean that the cowboy shooters will shoot the modern guns on the 3 gun stage. And the 3 gun shooters will shoot the cowboy stage with cowboy guns. That leaves the hybrid stage, how they are going to set it up, who knows?

Mark

 

[ny32182]

Define "appropriate guns".

 

[Sam1911]

Well, 'Holy Terror' is Randi Rogers, a nationally ranked IDPA & USPSA shooter besides being an amazing SASS competitor. She's going to know her way around "modern" guns.

http://randirogersshooting.com/

 

[jmorris]

Define "appropriate guns".

For 3 gun it would ba an AR, double stack semiauto and a semiauto shotgun. For cowboy it would be a lever action rifle, two single action pistols and a double barrel shotgun or winchester 97

 

[ny32182]

What I am not understanding is whether "appropriate" aligns with the shooter, or the stage.

"cowboy" shooters on 3gun stage... Are "appropriate guns" the cowboy guns or 3gun guns?

"3gun" shooters on cowboy stage... same question.

If everyone is shooting the same guns on the same stages, I would say it just comes down to whoever is most familiar with that wide array of different guns. If the 3gunners have never shot a cowboy setup they are probably in trouble. I am assuming everyone is at least moderately familiar with the modern guns.

If the 3gunners are shooting both a typical 3gun stage and typical cowboy stage with their 3gun setup, and the cowboy shooters will be shooting same with their cowboy setup, I don't think the cowboy shooters would have any chance overall due to the massive equipment disadvantage on the 3gun stage.

 

[jmorris]

I see, folks would turn off the TV watching someone shoot a lot of 3 gun stages with SASS firearms, I wouldn't think they would go the route. Make a stage that requires 13 rounds of pistol, 7 rounds of shotgun and 30 rifle rounds and there would be no competition at all. I would bet money it will be like post #10.

 

[Mr. D]

Hey, can you link to the site you're getting the info from? I hope it's available online afterwards!

~D

 

[Tizona]

The Cowboys will be shooting black guns for the 3 Gun Stage; the 3 Gun team will be shooting cowboy guns (wearing cowboy apparel - that should be fun!) for the cowboy stage.

And the hybrid stage is set up to confer no high capacity advantage to the 3 Gunners. And there are a lot of knockdowns for both.

Getting underway this morning!

Tizona

 

[Smokin Gator]

"If the 3gunners are shooting both a typical 3gun stage and typical cowboy stage with their 3gun setup, and the cowboy shooters will be shooting same with their cowboy setup, I don't think the cowboy shooters would have any chance overall due to the massive equipment disadvantage on the 3gun stage".

Of course. It is obvious to most, not all. The match would be a waste of time. That's why "appropriate" refers to the use of modern 3 Gun equipment on the 3Gun stages, and cowboy equipment on the cowboy stages. Plus the "hybrid stage", however they set that up. That's where the unknown element comes in. Whew! I guess that was hard. Mark

 

[Smokin Gator]

"I see, folks would turn off the TV watching someone shoot a lot of 3 gun stages with SASS firearms, I wouldn't think they would go the route. Make a stage that requires 13 rounds of pistol, 7 rounds of shotgun and 30 rifle rounds and there would be no competition at all. I would bet money it will be like post #10."


The only way that could work would be if you staged additional loaded revolvers and rifles along the way. Shotgun could be handled. You'd still have the problem of shooting longer distance targets with the pistol caliber rifles if they were out at more than 100 yards. Mark
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[ny32182]

Whew! I guess that was hard. Mark

I guess so!

 

[Tizona]

What an incredible match! All six of those shooters are incredible.

In the end, it came down to accuracy and consistency, even more than speed.

And the Cowboys won.

Best,
Tizona

 

[Mr. D]

Awww, you gave it away!

Can I watch this anywhere online?

~D

 

[waktasz]

Of course that's how it would work out. The modern guns are point and shoot and that's it. The cowboy guns are all goofy relics and most modern competitors have no experience at all with them.

 

[Tizona]

I'm not sure how goofy those relics are, after watching those guys put 10 rifle shots on target in under 2 seconds....

Tizona