Crime rate among police officers?

[rscalzo]

The stats stated Crimes After Issuing.

They don't state Misdemeanors, nor does it state what is required for revocation? There is a vast difference in the definition of a Crime and Misdemeanor in most states. In the NY Post article (another rag one step up from the Inquirer) have cited as sources minor drug use. Banned, yes. Would possession of a joint result in the revocation of a FL CWP? If not, the stats are, as I stated meaningless. You also cite a reference using one year of statistics. It was well known that those requites would be trouble before they were hired. But yet you cite ten years of stats in Fl and one year in NYC. Think maybe Fl had a run or two of anomalies in their stats.

You are using a bias sample to prove a point which doesn't wash.

 

[lacoochee]

I can document every instance of the use of a legal handgun/firearm by residents of my town was illegal and resulted in a homicide and/or charges resulting in a conviction. So that's a hundred percent? What's the point? none as statistics can be made to show anything?

Looks like the Brady Bunch is missing a member...go back hence you came, troll.

 

[beatcop]

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[JWF III]

Add all firearms owners to the mix.

All firearms owners? So you mean, even the drug dealer on the corner, that bought the stolen Glock for the cost of a $20 crack rock? Although not the rightful owner, they are still the "owner".

If you're going to include them, you might as well lump all people paid by the government in with the LE. This would even include Welfare recipients. That would get their stat as standardized as ALL firearms owners.

The OP specified CCW vs. LEO. Though I have no stat to back it up, I fully believe he's right.

The CCW community is probably the most upstanding part of our country. The percent of CCW vs. legal firearms owners is extremely low. They (state depending) go thru hell to get them, and won't chance it to losing them.

The LEO community (I do fully support what they do) is just like any other part of the government. There are those in it that'll do anything to get thereself ahead. I'm talking corruption here. Evidence that somehow goes missing, or is never found.

As stated by Just Jim:

With the "good old boy network" who knows the truth? I have seen drunken cops not get tickets when they crash their vehicle in a friends yard. Just get a ride home by other cops.

That is 2 crimes commited right there, that never got reported. Depending on the situation, DUI, misdemeanor or felony. Aiding and abeitting, and possibly other charges along those lines. This kind of thing goes on every day.

I have a friend whose mother was the secretary for a state judge. His one phone call (DUI) was to her. She called the judge, he called the sheriff's department that was holding him. He was released within 30 minutes of his phone call, all charges dropped. He didn't even have to pay to get his car from the impound lot.

It happens, that's life in the government.

My GUESS is that a LEO is probably 10-15 times more likely to COMMIT a crime (not just get charged).

I'll probably get flamed for what I said. But I fully believe it. The government is corrupt as hell. And until we stand up and do something about it, it will continue to be. I support the LE community. They do a job that I'd rather not have to do. But they should be held to the same standard as everyone else. The honest cops that won't do this, are just as guilty as the corrupt ones. Each one (of those two groups) give LE an equally black eye in the public's opinion.

Wyman

 

[Deanimator]

We make every effort to avoid trouble; police officers are paid to find it and intervene. It's the law of probability.

On the other hand, we have no union or group of similarly employed individuals who will provide legal representation and moral support for us no matter what we do either. We're on our own.

I guarantee you that no citizen who reads this will EVER get a thirty day suspension from his job... then a PROMOTION after he kills somebody on the job, much less if he shoots somebody in the head and lies about it.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/killedoncamera/

 

[franconialocal]

Move please

MOD. Can this be moved please or locked all together? What does this have to do with "General Gun Discussion"? Move to Legal? And yeah....I kind of take exception to this posting.

 

[GRIZ22]

What's the point? none as statistics can be made to show anything?


rscalzo is correct.

FL CHL holders vs NYPD, apples vs oranges?

I know that at least 2% of the governors in the US are under indictment for a felony.

 

[FoolishMortal]

Well, with the data about how low the crime rate is among concealed carry holders, I can at the very least make a good point to him with that data. This all came up because this particular individual seemed to me to be pretty against concealed carry. My friend that i mentioned was just talking to me, and mentioned that he had decided to get a lifetime permit in Indiana. From across the room, this guy boomed "What the **** are you going to do with that?". He made it pretty clear that he was against 'civilians waving guns around' and this was just mentioned as a defense against his biased position.

MOD. Can this be moved please or locked all together? What does this have to do with "General Gun Discussion"? Move to Legal? And yeah....I kind of take exception to this posting.

I posted this in general, because to me, the crime rate is not a specific legal issue, and I don't believe it belongs under activism either. As, to you taking exception, I have no issue with law enforcement officers at large, just with this particular individual's elitist attitude. I'm sorry if you, or anyone else still takes offense. I tried to keep this away from cop bashing as much as possible.

 

[TCB in TN]

I know that at least 2% of the governors in the US are under indictment for a felony.

If the truth be known that is probably an "under reported" number as well! Or at least it should be higher!

 

[lacoochee]

I am confused as to why this is controversial, the original OP was just looking for stats. Just because some Police Officers commit crimes (a very small number in relation to their total) albeit at a higher rate than CCW holders but far less than the general population does not mean that in any way are we bashing the Police.

In fact, after going through the quarterly reports, while I see some ****** baggery, rape, molestation, etc. the majority appear to be the types of crimes you would expect in any high stress occupation, e.g. drug usages, DWI, etc..

These stats don't prove anything, all they do is make clear the lie that the Police should be the only one to carry firearms about their person as they are the only folks trust worthy enough in our communities to do so.

 

[lacoochee]

take a basic police systems and practices course at your local community college if you want a better understanding.

nevermind, you'd probably fail.

Okay...

 

[inherentical]

Looks like someone's trying to get this locked. I think it should be discussed. I found some stats on Texas CHL conviction rates, but have yet to find anything on Texas Police conviction rates for similar crimes.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/convrates.htm