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Current going price for a 5 screw K-22?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Master Blaster, Oct 1, 2016.

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  1. Master Blaster

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    I came across one of these with the original gold box the serial number is k 52xxx, which I believe dates it to the 1948 timeframe.
    What is the current going rate for one of these in excellent condition 95% bluing original diamond grips with a box? No other accessories.

    thanks
     
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    http://www.horstauction.com/gunsale16sept.html My guess on yours would be $590 + $50 to $75 for the box. Note that a Classic new is listed at $989. FULL RETAIL.
     
  4. Driftwood Johnson

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    You are correct about the 1948 date.

    I picked this one up last year for $850. It shipped in 1950. It is pristine except for a slight turn line on the cylinder. For what it's worth, in my experience the box does not add a whole lot of value to these. Some dealers will make a big deal out of the box coming with the gun, but I have bought old Smiths with the box and there was no mention of the box at all until after the deal was completed.


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    Here is a link to one that sold at auction recently. This one is a little bit newer, from 1955. The sale price of $805 includes the auction house's profit of $15%.

    http://www.amoskeagauction.com/111/369.php
     
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  5. Master Blaster

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    Dont get carried away on the card board boxes. A guy offered to manufacture any vintage S & W box i may need, years ago. I never took him up on his offer. The wood ones have more value.
     
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    I stand by what I said. I picked up a pristine Model 14-3 a couple of years ago for the bargain price of $500. When the deal was done the dealer went into the back room and brought out the box. No mention had been made of the box, it was included in the price. Not the first time this has happened to me. A lot of folks think the box will enhance the sale price, that has not been my experience. Maybe if you found a Colt Single Action Army from 1873 with its original box, not a Smith from the 1940s or 1950s.

    Good luck finding someone who is willing to pay you $80 - $150 for the box, it would not be worth that to me.
     
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    Thanks for the link.

    Two thoughts come to mind. There's a sucker born every minute, and A fool and his money are soon parted. I particularly got a kick out of the 1970s blue boxes that are advertised as 'vintage'. A couple of those 'vintage' blue boxes are even from the 1980s. Vintage???

    Here are a bunch of revolvers that I bought used that came with the box. In each case, nothing was mentioned about the box on the sales ticket in the display window. In each case, the dealer went back to the store room and came back saying something like, "Oh, it comes with the box". Note that two of these boxes are over 100 years old. They came along with the guns, with no mention of the box before the deal was struck.

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    Don't get me wrong, I like getting the box along with the gun as much as the next guy. That's why I have held onto the boxes and all the goodies that came with my Model 17-3 and 19-3 when I bought them brand new over 40 years ago.

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    But I sure am not going to be bidding on any of those gold boxes for any of my old Smiths. If it didn't come with the gun, I ain't interested.

    I guess my point is that while you can separate a box from a revolver and keep the revolver while selling the box online, the fact that a box comes with a gun does not necessarily increase the value or price of the gun.
     
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    For collectable firearms so much depends on condition but in my neck of the woods around $850 is about right in real nice shape , I will pay a tad more for a box as I collect more than shoot..
     
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    Driftwood, the way things are going on e-bay you got two or three thousand dollars worth of boxes there. ;)
     
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    Stop it! Those beautiful revolvers make me drool all down the front of my shirt and I get to craving another one.
     
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