custom Benelli work = poor cycling

[InertiaDriven71]

I called Jeff today, getting ready to send my M2 in for some work-- he said that he does indeed remove the carrier before welding.

Although he could not tell me what the deal was with the rat toe and olive....

 

[Ohen Cepel]

Why weld a carrier? What is the expected gain? Sorry, I'm not a semi-shotgun guy and simply don't know.

 

[KansasSasquatch]

It keeps you from getting "Benelli bitten." If you ever try to load a Benelli tube magazine too quickly it's very easy to get your thumb snagged up in the carrier. The factory carrier has a bit of a v-shaped notch in it. Welding the carrier squares it up and doesn't leave space for your thumb to get snagged in. It can be a pretty painful experience.

 

[meanmrmustard]

It keeps you from getting "Benelli bitten." If you ever try to load a Benelli tube magazine too quickly it's very easy to get your thumb snagged up in the carrier. The factory carrier has a bit of a v-shaped notch in it. Welding the carrier squares it up and doesn't leave space for your thumb to get snagged in. It can be a pretty painful experience.

This is too true.

I have a Tristar Raptor ATAC, a Benelli M1 clone, that follows the same design.

I'm one of those loading to quickly and getting bitten on occasion.

 

[rbernie]

What would be the presumed benefit for Benelli having designed the carrier with the open front?

 

[627PCFan]

Wow. Easy solution. When you push the shell into the mag, lower the top of your thumb joint into the channel transferring the spring load of the carrier to the joint and it will hold the carrier down while you extract your thumb. Never a problem with my SB2 or Nova in a decade.

 

[jaguarxk120]

So then it is operator error.

 

[KansasSasquatch]

Wow. Easy solution. When you push the shell into the mag, lower the top of your thumb joint into the channel transferring the spring load of the carrier to the joint and it will hold the carrier down while you extract your thumb. Never a problem with my SB2 or Nova in a decade.

Sounds easy enough. But let me ask you this, do you use your SBE2 and Nova for hunting, competition, or both? When I only used my SBE for hunting and informal clay shooting I never had a problem with doing it the way you described. But it's not always so simple when you're practicing for or competing in 3 gun competitions. Plenty of people have suffered bloody thumbs from getting Benelli bit.

You could say it's simply user error but no one is perfect, not even a beast like Jerry Miculek. Most people don't like bleeding from making a very simple mistake.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

Thanks, learned something today.

 

[rcmodel]

See this about that:

http://tarantacticalinnovations.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=39_42&products_id=107

http://www.speedshooter.com/product_detail.cfm?id=TTBNLI-CRLFT

rc

 

[lonegunman]

I have been shooting an M1 with either a tactical shotgun with a 19.5"bbl and rifle sights or a 26" for turkey and clays and it has probably jammed 3 times in 15 years with 1-1/8th ounce loads.

I'm not sure what could be done to improve the realibility.

 

[InertiaDriven71]

If you shoot a Benelli enough, and load in a hurry-- your thumb will get pinched good. Not operator error, but thanks for the vote of confidence :banghead:

It is not just the U-shaped notch, but even the edges are set fairly far back from the rear of the magazine on the factory carrier. I do have an issue with Benelli not making it "right" in the first place. There must be a good reason (?)

For those with worthwhile and accurate posts on this thread, thanks for the help. I'm out, y'all have a good one