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Custom Rifle Idea's

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by HeadlandRam, Oct 21, 2008.

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  1. HeadlandRam

    HeadlandRam Member

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    After Class today, I got to thinking what could be good Idea's for a custom rifle.

    Here's what I got,

    Caliber:

    8x75R (My own caliber I thought of)

    8x56R

    9x74R

    7.62x54R

    .300 Winchester Magnum

    .7mm

    .338 Laupau

    .300 Savage

    .303 Enfield

    .378 horst Magnum (Another Caliber I thought of)

    .416 Barret

    Action:

    Mauser 98

    Winchester 70 (Pre-64)

    Semi?

    Trigger:

    2 1/2 or 3 pound trigger break

    Accutrigger ?

    Stock:

    Mannlicher Stock

    Walnut ?

    Any suggestions?

    HR
     
  2. 3pairs12

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    What would you use this rifle for. A hybrid paper/ hunter just paper, just hunting? I would use the Mauser action over winchester anyway.
     
  3. HeadlandRam

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    More of a Hunting rifle than anything
     
  4. browningguy

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    Mauser action, timney trigger, your choice of stock (although I really like Mannlicher style). Chambering of your choice, although the first three you mention really aren't a good idea. If you really want a great medium bore that fits and feeds well look at the 9.3 x 62, 8 x 57 or 7 x 57.

    I've had one custom built in 7x57 and one in .458 Winny, pre-war VZ24 action and Daly Mauser action, both with 24" barrels in my preferred contour. The 7x57 has a B&C synthetic stock with no iron sights, the .458 has a laminate stock with bachup sights. Both are great for the use I intended.

    This is the 7x57, marked on barrel as .275 Rigby:

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    And the .458 with a Boyds JRS stock:

    [​IMG]

    Keep in mind you'll spend more than a factory rifle, and the resale sucks if you get rid of it, but you can build exactly what you want.
     
  5. NCsmitty

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    It would be easier and cheaper to buy a Stevens 200 or a Savage in maybe, 7MM Rem Mag or 300 Win Mag.
    If you're up to the challenge, then a Mauser conversion may scratch that itch. Just be prepared to spend money unless you have machine tools and experience or good friends. A custom chambering will add a bit too. A Mannlicher Stock is always a nice touch on a Mauser.

    NCsmitty
     
  6. gvnwst

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    okay, first of all, not a .7mm, but a 7mm would be better, :)D) and which one. with a middle of the road 7mm, i would choose the mauser action, and shoehorning a accutrigger would be cool too. i personally like thumbhole type stocks. that is what i would do.
     
  7. dirtyjim

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    first i would look at a few of the rifles being built at curio and relic firearms forum , MFRC & at accurate reloading for ideas.

    i prefer mauser sporters but i also have a couple of springfield 1903's, a mannlicher schoenauer 1903 & a couple of mosin projects.

    if this is going to be your first project i would try to keep it simple.
    go with a mauser action, i pick them up as donor rifles on gunbroker for anywhere from $75-150 depending on the the maker.
    buy a threaded & short chambered barrel in 7mm mauser but have it stamped .275 rigby because it sounds much cooler, adams & bennet barrels are under $100 at midway.
    install a lyman receiver sight, necg banded front sight & a talley or gentry barrel band swivel. cut off the original bolt handle & have a talley style handle welded on.
    pick up a nice classic style semi inlet stock from great american gunstocks with a checkered metal cap & buttplate.
    the only work you will actually need to have the gunsmith do is finish ream the barrel, drill & tap for the receiver sight & weld on the bolt handle if you don't have the tools, possibly the blueing too if you don'y want to try your hand at rust blueing.

    doing it like this for your first project will give you some wood & metal working skills, not break the bank & let you know if you want to get more involved in building custom rifles.
     
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  9. ChipChaff

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    Great American Gunstock Ripoff

    Dirty Jim,
    I was just ripped off by Henry Pohl of Great American Gunstocks today. Check out the site Ripoffreport.com if you think I'm doing this because of a chip on my shoulder - I don't want other gun lovers to get similarly hosed. I paid $600 for a roughed out stock. Yes, it has really nice wood, but the action screw holes were so far off center and angled inside the stock that they had to be be bored out and plugged. I may yet have to pillar bed the action to keep the repair job from looking cheesy. I waited three months for the stock - a month longer than promised; I have two full days in filing and shaping and sanding to get the shaper gouges out - not finish sanded. Worse, I relied on the position of the action screw holes to start finishing the inletting for the action and may have take off too much wood on one side to get a proper metal to wood fit. It's a custom order and I've worked on it so I can't send it back, and with the work and the wait I wouldn't want to - so I told Henry I wanted a partial refund for the additional work his mistake had caused. His response was I should be happy I only paid $600 for such a nice stock. Buyer beware.http://www.thehighroad.org/images/smilies/angryfire.gif
    Chip
     
  10. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    I like what browningguy suggested for you:

    -9.3x62mm
    -Mauser action
    -Mannlicher style stock
    -Express sights
    -Timney trigger

    Thanks for the heads up, chipchaff, and welcome - can't believe that guy said that to you after screwing up the holes/inletting.
     
  11. ChipChaff

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    On a lighter note, I'm in the process of building a custom starting with a pre-64 model 70 action, Shilen #5 contour match grade, which I will chamber in .257 Roberts, and stock with a very striking, albeit somewhat flawed, piece of French walnut.

    Project #2 is another Shilen barrel and Win action (also pre-64) for its companion piece in .375 H&H. I haven't bought the chambering reamer or stock for that one yet.

    I have a pre-war model 70 with the original barrel in .300 H&H - haven't decided what to do with that one yet. It's a poorly refinished, well used Alaska bush/guide gun marked only ".300 Magnum" as it predates any other .30 mag - it was a gift from a pawnshop owner in AK who let me play gunsmith in his shop for free. Great guy.

    Anyway - that's what makes my socks go up and down.

    Chip
     
  12. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    Update

    Hey Chipchaff, I emailed that company asking them for an explanation on your situation, so I guess now I'm acting as mediator since I actually got response; here it is:

     
  13. homers

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    Please remove the persons full name, address. Not cool to post somebody's personal info on the net.

    It also bothers me that Great American Gunstocks released this info to somebody else.
     
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  14. Jim Watson

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    Do you have gunsmithing equipment and skills?
    Do you have a lot of money for a professional?
    Do you know the characteristics of the calibers and actions you mention? (Several of those calibers would not be feasible to put in a Winchester or Mauser action. An Accutrigger is only available as factory equipment on a Savage rifle.)

    Study up. Look before you leap.
     
  15. JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone

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    Mauser action (Oh, heck, what's that metal treatment process...? Makes it look like dark stainless and highly corrosion resistant)
    Custom fluted/jeweled bolt
    Detachable magazine

    Shilen SS fluted barrel -hard chromed and bead blasted

    Timney adjustable.

    Kevlar stock with something like a decelerator recoil system.

    -Steve
     
  16. ChipChaff

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    Hi all:

    I don't mind seeing my emails to Great American Gunstock Co. here on the HighRoad - I think it tells the story pretty well.

    Yes I am an amateur gunbuilder but I have a pretty complete machine shop and I was able to set the stock up square and drill out the action holes on my Bridgeport vertical mill and machine aluminum pillars to a .002" press fit on my Hardinge lathe. I was able to get the holes in the correct position on the lower and upper inletting and in parallel so now I can finish the inletting. When it's done, I think it will be a beautiful stock and a very credible job.

    If I were Henry, I would be embarrassed that an "amateur" could do a better job at something so simple as drilling a couple of holes on center. I just wish I hadn't had to put the pillars in, not that they'll be readily visible, just I don't think they belong on a classic hunting rifle.

    As for not wanting to return the stock - GAG's site specifically states that a custom stock cannot be returned, nor can a stock which has been worked on. As I said before, I waited a month longer than the two months I was told it would take to get the stock and I had already put in more than two solid days of cleanup on the stock so no, I did not want to send in the stock for another one or have Henry mangle this one further. I would gladly have provided other evidence of the problem - photos, another "professional" gunsmith's evaluation, etc., but I wasn't mailing the stock to Henry.

    Look at Henry's original refusal to consider a partial refund, which I believe is his truest response: he dismisses my description of the error in drilling as a little misplaced and says that any problem or "blems" in the stock were already factored into the "asking price" and that I should be happy that I got such a beautiful stock for $600. To dismiss my complaint now as the quibbling of a know-nothing amateur is a smokescreen.

    I didn't wake up one morning and decide I was going to try to extort a refund out of GAG and go through all this hassle for $250. When I first got my stock I was so relieved it was pretty wood that I went on line and commended GAG to counter some of the negative press I'd read - check out my first post on ripoffreport.com - I praised GAG! It was only when I realized that they had screwed up the action holes and I was going to have to fix it that I got pissed off. I've probably spent a lot more than $250 in time at minimum wage pursing fairness - as I said, it's not so much the money, it's the principle. I don't think companies should get away blissfully passing off slipshod work.

    The fact is the action holes were far enough out of line that the stock had to be repaired - it has nothing whatsoever to do with it being a rough inletted stock or me being an amateur - it was a mistake and a fairly obvious one at that once I put the action guide screws through. The only reason I didn't realize that the problem was the screw holes was because until I analyzed the situation, I never would have thought something so basic could have been screwed up so badly. I thought a partial refund would be the best solution for both Henry and me. Having no other leverage but to hold Henry and his company publicly accountable, that is what I threatened to do and am doing.

    For better or worse, that's my case. Use GAG; don't use GAG; up to you. I just wish I had come across some of the negatives before I placed my order, because Henry's assertion to the contrary, there are a lot of people selling nice custom stock - it just takes some research.

    All the best,
    CZ
     
  17. ChipChaff

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    Oh, one minor point of correction, Brian Sharp has my emails in the wrong order and it may be confusing to some who bother to pay that much attention.
    Chip/Mark
     
  18. skeet king

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    A semi auto as reliable as the AK with a wood thumbhole stock, in 8mm, with M1 sights.
     
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