CX4 Storm 9mm or 40 S&W

[zerobarrier]

Ok so I opted for the cx4 storm in 9mm, came with 2 30rnd mags and 3 15rnd mags. Added a safariland rls light to it and ordered a barrel shroud from MOERSE LEKKER.

cx4 9mm with px4 40S&W with viridian light

 

[alca]

I tried both caliber and 9mm is more accurate a lot, and it's a same charge than my pistol 9mm so, same caliber, more accurate, and i bought this for the look.
It come with a grip,

http://www.elmfg.com/pics/210.jpg
I hope i help .

 

[IdahoLT1]

Good choice! I bought my CX4 when they first came out in '03(serial #00065x) and it'll be the last one I sell. Its really accurate with 90gr. hollow points. Ive made numerous 75yard shots on whistle pigs using a cheap red dot.

On a side note: When someone starts a thread about buying a specific gun, I find it extremely annoying when people throw in suggestions on a different gun like their opinion matters that much.

 

[ugaarguy]

On a side note: When someone starts a thread about buying a specific gun, I find it extremely annoying when people throw in suggestions on a different gun like their opinion matters that much.

Expressing opinions about the gun in question, whether for or against, is why we discuss things on a gun forum. Sometimes suggest alternatives is a valid part of the discussion. In post #11 the OP did open up the discussion to other rifles because of his desire to have a threaded bbl and stay 922(r) compliant.

Zerobarrier, I'm glad you settled your internal dilemma and got a rifle that you're happy with.

 

[zerobarrier]

Thanks ugaarguy, I figured if I really want to thread it I can change the internal trigger with 922r complaint parts and it should allow the barrel threaded, I think - I'll have to verify that with the BATFE before I do it. There is a company that makes a new trigger housing for it with all metal parts and a much lighter and crisp trigger pull. This is the link to that company: http://sierrapapacx4.com/index/
I think the price is around $170 for a metal trigger, hammer, and spring. They want you to send your trigger housing to them and they replace the parts. And if the BATFE says the rifle will still be in violation of 922r, then that just given me an excuse to buy a SBR'd Kriss Vector with a osprey suppressor

 

[BSA1]

This whole 922r regulation keeps me more and more confused. Why is threading the end of the barrel a 922r issue? I don't recall the parts count sheets for AK's listing threading the barrel as a point.

 

[ugaarguy]

Why is threading the end of the barrel a 922r issue? I don't recall the parts count sheets for AK's listing threading the barrel as a point.

Because the CX4 is imported as a sporting rifle. Threading the bbl makes it non-sporting so it violates 922(r) because you have "assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under section 925 (d)(3) of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes". So you have to swap in enough US made parts to give it enough domestic parts content that it's no longer considered imported. I don't know how many domestic parts are required to make a CX4 compliant.

 

[griff383]

Im glad I came across this thread, at some point I would like to own a CX4. Eventually it would become an SBR with a can, I would have never guessed it needed some mods to become compliant.

 

[zerobarrier]

Griff in my opinion I see no need to SBR the CX4. It is already only 30" long as is, plus the most you can take off is 6-7" unless you change the stock. Like I said in one of my earlier posts might as well get the vector kriss SBR with a 5.5" barrel. Its alot more but if I am going to pay for the tax stamp I want the better rifle. Just my opinion.

 

[BSA1]

Threading the bbl makes it non-sporting so it violates 922(r) because you have "assemble from imported parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under section 925 (d)(3) of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes". So you have to swap in enough US made parts to give it enough domestic parts content that it's no longer considered imported.

So threading the end of the barrel and adding a muzzle break made in the USA is changing it from "sporting purposes". I guess I can follow this logic as it is making the gun into a "assault weapon" in the eyes of the BATF.

But, wait, isn't the purpose of swapping for USA made part(s) is for removing points. Simply adding a USA made is not changing the point count.

On the other hand I don't see where merely threading the barrel is "adding" a part so like you point out how many evil parts need to be removed to be 922r compliant. As I recall from previous discussions converting a Saiga Sporter to AK style is a all or nothing process to comply with 922r.

Yet rifles made in the good old US of A are legal with threaded muzzles with or without breaks.

Like I said the whole 922r is very confusing.

 

[zerobarrier]

Just got done putting 150rds thru it. I must say this is a very fun rifle and accurate too. I shot it out to 75yards and it did great I have a 20" gong at 75yards and I hit it everytime. I did shave down the latch to lighten the trigger up, which did work. Here is a pic of the shroud I got in the mail today. I am very happy with it.

 

[ugaarguy]

So threading the end of the barrel and adding a muzzle break made in the USA is changing it from "sporting purposes". I guess I can follow this logic as it is making the gun into a "assault weapon" in the eyes of the BATF.

But, wait, isn't the purpose of swapping for USA made part(s) is for removing points. Simply adding a USA made is not changing the point count.

You're actually mixing in three separate laws (subsections?). 922(r) deals only with sporting or non-sporting semi-automatic long guns. 922(r) compliance uses a parts count to determine if you've put enough US made parts into an imported long gun to make it now considered domestically produced with some imported parts. 922(r) says nothing of "assault weapon" and simply lets the ATF determine if a firearm to be imported is "not particularly suited to sporting purposes". The term "assault weapon" applied to both imported and domestically produced firearms during the AWB of 1994 to 2004. The points system is a tally of features and attributes which determine if a handgun can be legally imported under the GCA of 1968. This law (subsection?) attempted to ban the importation of cheap handguns. For handgun import purposes more points are better. Things like larger calibers, longer barrels, metal frames, heavier frames, target grips, and adjustable sights get you more points.