CZ 600
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I don't know, but a couple of possibilities might be:
1. To allow the scope to clear the rear sight so you don't have to either remove the rear sight, or mount the scope up high if you install a scope (which most people do).
2. To get the rear sight far enough down to barrel so that it's mounted on a more level surface of the barrel instead of on the more steeply tapered area closer to the chamber.
I don't have a 600, but I have some 550s and a 527 with sights. The 550s in particular (shown below) have the rear sight a pretty good ways down the barrel (but the radius still looks longer than on the 600). It doesn't bother me at all, and I can shoot mine into half-inch and less groups at 50 yards with a good rest, which is pretty much as well as I can shoot my longer-barreled, longer-sight-radius guns. Bottom line, I'd bet the shorter sight radius may not actually cause any noticeable loss in accuracy.
1. To allow the scope to clear the rear sight so you don't have to either remove the rear sight, or mount the scope up high if you install a scope (which most people do).
2. To get the rear sight far enough down to barrel so that it's mounted on a more level surface of the barrel instead of on the more steeply tapered area closer to the chamber.
I don't have a 600, but I have some 550s and a 527 with sights. The 550s in particular (shown below) have the rear sight a pretty good ways down the barrel (but the radius still looks longer than on the 600). It doesn't bother me at all, and I can shoot mine into half-inch and less groups at 50 yards with a good rest, which is pretty much as well as I can shoot my longer-barreled, longer-sight-radius guns. Bottom line, I'd bet the shorter sight radius may not actually cause any noticeable loss in accuracy.
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They are like " Battue style" for quick shooting of driven game or a charging lion or buffalo , battue rifles are common and available in Europe , I wondered if one could shoot pheasant with a . 22 in a place like south Dakota where their are a lot of pheasants and a lot of open land , sparsely populated, a lot of chances to practice hitting a flying bird with a rifle.
All my life I've heard stories of country boys bird hunting with a .22 and I wondered what sights would be best, could one add a rib to a model 60 or take the rear sight off.
I agree that a red dot sight or burris fast fire would be better for" Brush hunting " rather than iron sight
All my life I've heard stories of country boys bird hunting with a .22 and I wondered what sights would be best, could one add a rib to a model 60 or take the rear sight off.
I agree that a red dot sight or burris fast fire would be better for" Brush hunting " rather than iron sight
Riomouse911
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I have never noticed how far down the barrel that rear sight is. The stubby 18.5” Ruger 77 international rifles have a short sight radius that looks sort of similar, but on the RSI the rear is an inch or two closer to the shooters eye.
The sight placement down the barrel a bit does fit with the scope though. As was mentioned by @I6turbo, larger objective lenses would probably hit the sight base on this gun without tall rings.
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The sight placement down the barrel a bit does fit with the scope though. As was mentioned by @I6turbo, larger objective lenses would probably hit the sight base on this gun without tall rings.
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I think scope mounting is the main reason, also mounting relatively level to the front sight so that the front sight doesn’t have to stick up a mile to work. These are hunting rifles with lightweight tapered barrels, not bull barrel target guns. And with that design philosophy quick sight acquisition is easier with less distance between them. That lack of a long sight plane will slightly hinder the shooter going for very tight groups, but most shooters who want tight groups would probably not want to use the built in irons anyway, they’d either use a scope or attach some kind of adjustable peep.
Finally, a rear iron sight mounted well away from the eye is easier for older eyes to focus on, which may or may not be a design choice but probably fits the market since they likely assume the younger crowd is buying a semi-auto of some sort.
Finally, a rear iron sight mounted well away from the eye is easier for older eyes to focus on, which may or may not be a design choice but probably fits the market since they likely assume the younger crowd is buying a semi-auto of some sort.
Dave DeLaurant
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At a guess, I'd say it was to give more room for mounting long scopes with large objective bells. Irons are usually backups these days, and CZ hasn't gone with the folding leaf system. I've encountered this problem with older rifle/scope combos, and it can often require interesting compromises. This Husqvarna/Weaver combo works, but there's no longer room to fit the front scope cap I was using.
I like CZ's with irons too. During the lengthy modding process for my 527 fullstock, I eventually had to remove the rear leaf to achieve a less obstructed view of the front post through the NECG aperture.
I used a Marbles sight blank to fill the dovetail. I also changed out the triggerguard to take 3-round magazines and replaced the stupid vented pad with a simple buttplate.
I like CZ's with irons too. During the lengthy modding process for my 527 fullstock, I eventually had to remove the rear leaf to achieve a less obstructed view of the front post through the NECG aperture.
I used a Marbles sight blank to fill the dovetail. I also changed out the triggerguard to take 3-round magazines and replaced the stupid vented pad with a simple buttplate.
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NuclearMeltdown
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The 600 Lux takes Remington 700 bases. I bet a Williams WGRS peep sight for the 700 fits the CZ.
Looks like KY Gun has a very attractive price on the CZ 600 Alpha right now. $399 after rebate, free shipping.
I am a very big fan of the 550 and 527 (3 each of those). CZ "replaced" both of these lines with the 600. IMO, they discontinued the old-school-quality 527 and 550, and came out with a modern, mostly-CNC-built gun that is a nice gun by modern standards, but doesn't have the "soul" that the prior CZ and BRNO centerfires have. I also have a BRNO ZKK, which is a very nice gun, but even that gun isn't quite a match for the 550 in some ways, IMO.
I wouldn't mind having a 600 to see what it's like, or as a knock-about rifle. For example, I think I'd rather have one than a Ruger American or other similarly-constructed designs of the past few years. But just like the 457 (rimfire sibling of the 600) doesn't satisfy me like the BRNO and 452 rimfires do, I am highly confident that the 600 isn't going to make me lose interest in the 527, 550 or BRNO centerfires.
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The KY Gun rebate on the 600 Alpha made me curious. It doesn't fit with my usual fettish for walnut and blued steel, but it looks like a heck of a gun for the price.
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