CZ-75b Failure to Extract. Any ideas?

[Hammerhead6814]

I liked my first CZ-75b so much I decided to buy another one. I had the intention of turning it into a competition target gun with adjustable sights and replacing the barrel with the six-inch thread barrel so I could fit a compensator. So I figured since I'm going to replace all of this what's the harm in buying used?

I found out today. The CZ-75b I purchased a few days ago is having many, many failures to extract. I can post pics and I took a video of one failure to extract. It's leaving the spent brass in the chamber when the slide goes back. Does anyone know what this could be? Does anyone know how much this cost to fix? Or have fixed?

 

[JDGray]

Most likely carbon buildup behind the extractor. Springs were an issue a few years ago. Give it a good cleaning, but may have to remove it to get it all. Did you buy it new? If so send it back to CZ-USA.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Lock the slide back (or remove the slide) and look at the extractor claw to see if it is chipped, bent or even broken off. If you are unsure you can compare it to your other pistol. If this is OK, it could be bound in the channel from debris, or the spring is weak or broken and not pushing the claw into full contact.

 

[Runningman]

What ammo?

See if the extractor will hold onto a spent case and a loaded round. For best results take the slide off, and slip case under the extractor. Try a few cases.

Could be a bad extractor or weak extractor spring. Wolff makes an extra power extractor spring for CZ.

What year was it made? Year should be on there somewhere. If it was made in the last five years CZ USA may fix it for free. You might call them up and ask.

 

[Hammerhead6814]

Ammo was Winchester White box, MFS, and Blazer ball. I know this in-particular CZ was made back in the 1990's, it's marked as "Oakhurst, CA", and they haven't made them there in awhile.

I'm going to break it down and take a look at that extractor.

 

[armoredman]

Bet you got one of the few but highly publicized problem guns, with the weaker spring. If all is OK visually, call 1-800-955-4486, press 2 for parts, ask for Adam, see what they can do for you.

 

[1SOW]

I agree with all above. A thorough cleaning 'might' be a fix. If not, call CZ as armoredman said.

If the extractor is not bad then an 'extra power' extractor spring should fix it.

I had the problem with Blazer 'aluminum' . The spring fixed it.

You don't have to completely remove the pin to remove the extractor.

 

[jmr40]

One of the common traits of CZ's is to ship them with sub-standard springs. If I were buying a new one I would have all the springs replaced, especially the one on the extractor. Would probably replace the extractor while I had it apart just to be safe. Don't forget to replace the mag springs as well.

 

[armoredman]

jmr, that's not quite true, there was a run of bad extractor springs years ago. All of the 10 CZ pistols that have gone through this household have had good springs. If he has a bad one, CZ-USA will be happy to help. I've never had to replace anything but the recoil spring in my P01, after over 5 years of weekly shooting, just because I felt like replacing it. No mag spring issues yet, and many of them are loaded quite a lot of the time. Only problem I had was jams caused by my own bad first generation reloads! Sounds like you had a bad experiance - did you get one of the bad extractor spring models?

 

[CZF]

Yes, only a run of 75Bs. I don't know how the guns run in other countries, you would think that 9mm ammo would be mostly the same.

Extractor spring is a cheap and easy fix.

P-01s and PCRs seem to have this problem a lot less.

 

[moxie]

Yes, likely an extractor issue.

FYI, CZs have always been manufactured in the Czech Republic, formerly Czechoslovakia, never in California. There are many clones, most commonly the EAA Witness and similar guns made by Tanfoglio in Italy.

 

[Gary G23]

I've owned eight CZ's. In my experience extraction issues are caused by four factors:
1. Extractor Spring - Even in brand new guns I would advise replacing the stock spring with a Wolff extra power spring.
2. Crud buildup in extractor channel - remove extractor and clean thoroughly.
3. Old style extractor - CZ has upgraded their extractors since the early ones, probably for a reason.
4. Junk ammo - a CZ is not a Glock. It will not eat everything. I always use Federal American Eagle to differentiate between a gun problem and an ammo problem.

 

[Hammerhead6814]

I removed the extractor today. If the almost midnight black color of my fingertips tell me anything it's that there was definitely some build-up in the extractor housing. I'll take it out and see if it's made any difference tomorrow. Too hot in Missouri at 4:00 pm.

BTW, I don't know if it was assembled, built, or imported through Oakhurst, CA, but the towns name is on it.

 

[armoredman]

Oakhurst is where it was imported through. CZ-75s from CZ are built in Uhersky Brod, Czech Republic.

a CZ is not a Glock.

Thank God! jk.
Actually, mine have only choked on my bad first generation reloads. I can't remember a failure with factory ammo, with the exception of factory 22lr ammo failing to fire in the Kadet Kit. That was some 10 year old dirty Federal loss leader junk ammo, worked great with the other stuff I had.
Clean that puppy up right, and please let us know what happens.

 

[railroader]

I had a "military" cz75b that was made in 1996. It started to get extraction problems. This was around 2002. I got a new extractor for it and that cured the problem. I also found the newer extractor had a bigger claw. Maybe you have one of the older extractors. Mark