CZ-75b musings

[Rancho Relaxo]

Get one, you won't regret it.

 

[Tenacious B]

I just got the SP-01 Tactical today, it is a great shooter. Kadet kit is next on my wish list.

 

[L.E.O]

Just wanted to say i have sevral CZ's including the P07 duty in 9mm and 40S&W they are excellent firearms and other than a slicked out 1911 are probably THE best gun for the money. if your looking for a great pointing and potent self defence the 97 in 45 acp is awsome.

 

[Ohio Gun Guy]

I tried test shot lots of other pistols......and then got a CZ.

I'm not going to trash the others because there are some fine pistols made, But I LOVE MY CZ.

 

[Haifisch]

Some of you guys are a little sensitive.
I never said anything bad about CZ's, I just said there are better choices.

 

[schmeky]

I never said anything bad about CZ's, I just said there are better choices.

Maybe not on this thread, but you have said bad things. Which is fine, CZ's aren't for everyone, and some owners have not been satisfied.

 

[hanno]

I just purchased a CZ75B with the Omega trigger last week. For the money, I'm pretty impressed.

I got the Omega system mostly because that's the only one that comes with the upswept beavertail instead of the standard downward pointing frame spur, at least until you get to the pricier competition and/or limited edition models. I've tried the standard 75B and the grip spur began to wear a sore spot on my hand after a few shots. I use a high hold and tend to grip pistols very firmly, and really would not find the standard 75B workable. The Omega version grip is quite comfortable, on the other hand.

Also, there is talk that the conversion parts to swap between the standard SA safety and a decocker will be available soon. (Cool for IDPA use.)

The pistol came with two mags and was packaged in light oil, inside a plastic bag, inside a plastic box, inside a cardboard sleeve. I paid $480 + tax, I think. (Cabelas had them in stock.)

The only thing I'm not impressed with is the trigger. The SA pull is very light, which is fine, but has a lot of creep. The DA pull is impossible to describe in terms that are acceptable on this forum. "Heavy" and "stagey" begin to hint at it... and probably would be workable descriptions with a few expletives thrown in ahead of them.

I've gone through the lockwork and polished a lot of things up, and honed the engagement faces of the hammer and sear, but the trigger still has ~3/16" of creepy travel before the break. So far, there are no suggestions as to what can be done for the DA pull. A lighter mainspring is suggested by some, but that comes with reliability issues, as well as also making the SA pull lighter as well, which is counterproductive.

So much for the bad.

The good was range performance last practice night. Very fast. Very flat-shooting. Accuracy seems to be very good.

If I can get the trigger sorted out, I'll be quite happy with mine.

Actually the CZ 75 SA has the upswept beavertail. I own three different CZ 75s - the SA, the Omega and the SP-01. All have the upswept beavertail.

The biggest disadvantage of the Omega is that it won't work with the Kadet Kit. Still, if they come out with the decocker kit for the Omega, that will be a plus.

CZ 75s are great pistols - well made, reliable and accurate.

My CZ 75 SA with Kadet Kit installed and CZ 75 SP-01

 

[Sam1911]

Ok... enough of that, then.

Ignore Haifisch.

The troll returns.

Some of you guys are a little sensitive.
I never said anything bad about CZ's, I just said there are better choices.

Maybe not on this thread, but you have said bad things.

Haifisch, the collected wisdom of Haifisch, and the little "fan club" he seems to have gathered to himself, are not the subject of this thread.

Please lets have no further discussion relating to that non-topic.

 

[Kingofthehill]

But that's the very feature that makes the CZ so great! It allows the axis of the bore to be lower in relation to the hand, allowing quicker sight picture recovery between shots. Try double tapping a target with your CZ and a similar pistol - a High Power or a Beretta. You'll do it faster and more accurately with the CZ.

Oh, i understand that... and trust me, it shows in an all metal gun like that shooting 9mm with such little mass above the bore... its on par with my Stey M9 in terms of low bore axis and follow up shots...

but for people with big ol' hands like myself, it sometimes is difficult to grasp in quick scenarios. Gotta weigh the good and the bad and do the math to see if its a benefit to you.

I love my CZ75

 

[Lvl21nerd]

what i hope is that when i finally get it, my hands fit it well

my hands are on the smallish side of medium, and i know that a Beretta 92fs felt somewhat large in my hands...the CZ 75 is roughly the same size isnt it?

 

[Sam1911]

Uh... "roughly". But not really. A 92F is a horse. Pretty cool gun, but a handful. The 75 isn't tiny. I'm always surprised how much larger it feels in the hand than a 1911, for example, but it still isn't quite as "Rubenesque" as a 92F.

 

[Philo_Beddoe]

A lighter mainspring is suggested by some, but that comes with reliability issues, as well as also making the SA pull lighter as well, which is counterproductive.

CZ's mainsprings come from the factor oversprung.

European primers are much harder, the factory mainspring is 20 lbs.

I got a 15 lb spring in my omega.

 

[Lvl21nerd]

:banghead: guys guys guys

lol...i think i might be getting addicted to CZ's before i even own one

i just found another i want to buy...the CZ 97b (.45 ACP)

(not to mention the fact that i plan on owning a CZ-83 and CZ-52 someday)

 

[hanno]

:banghead: guys guys guys

lol...i think i might be getting addicted to CZ's before i even own one

i just found another i want to buy...the CZ 97b (.45 ACP)

(not to mention the fact that i plan on owning a CZ-83 and CZ-52 someday)

Oh yeah, you have to get the big one. Not many folks buy a CZ and stop. They are an addiction.

 

[content]

Hello friends and neighbors // I think the 75B is an outstanding firearm.

Mine came in an oily plastic bag, grips and all. I field striped it and cleaned it before use.

The nylon brush CZ provided does not go completely through the barrel, causing you to reverse the bristles inside the barrel when pulling it out. This is in conflict with the owners manual which says not to use such a brush (they may be refering to metal brushes, I just use a cleaning rod the goes all the way through.

The conversion kits I have seen online are over $400. The best price I can get locally on the complete Kadet Pistol is over $600 (more than my 75B). I'm thinking of going for the conversion kit simply because I will then be using the same trigger shooting .22 and .40 smoothing it out all the quicker.

The only con IMHO is wearing the frame into the pattern of two slides, something has to give somewhere. I just hope they both match up nicely out of the box.

PROS--I really enjoy shooting the 75B and would not hesitate to carry it with the right holster and belt. It is heavy compared to composite pistols but has (for me using 40s&w) quicker returning to target because of it. The accuracy further out is impressive as well.
The balance and handleing are great and the ambi safety is a bonus too. Another bonus is the magazines for the 75B will fit in my 2075 RAMI.

CONS--For me the first con was the plastic grips, I'd prefer rubber like the grips on my RAMI and purchasing these will add to the price of the 75B.

The DA first shot is rough also. I prefer to carry at half cock, the safety cannot be applied in this position, the DA first pull is lessened and you have the option of thumbing the hammer back to full cock more easily and providing an SA trigger pull.

I can't speak for the 9mm but I'm extremely satisfied with my CZ 75B .40s&w I hope you enjoy yours.

 

[content]

Hello friends and neighbors // "Rubenesque" LOL I like that.

 

[hanno]

The conversion kits I have seen online are over $400. The best price I can get locally on the complete Kadet Pistol is over $600 (more than my 75B).

FWIW - $381.64 shipped.
http://czcustom.com/CZ-75-Kadet-Kit-PolyCoat-22.aspx

 

[huduguru]

Hammerhead, I don't believe the CZ75 was ever even considered for
the U.S. Army trials because it didn't meet the criteria, one of which I believe was a decocker. The CZ75 BD(decocker version) was not even around then...

 

[content]

Thanks hanno I'll check it out, might have one by the end of the month. $410 was my best find, never thought CZ custom would be lower.

 

[wilkersk]

Beretta or a Glock.

{chortle}

Don't be ashamed of that CZ. For the money, you can't beat it!

If you want a Glock or a Beretta, buy one! If you want a great full-size hi-cap 9mm for less than $500, get the CZ-75B.

 

[Starcheck55]

my hands are on the smallish side of medium, and i know that a Beretta 92fs felt somewhat large in my hands...the CZ 75 is roughly the same size isnt it?

some feel that the fullsize 75 is a little large, particularly in DA mode. I'd recommend giving the P01 a try. Little smaller and lighter with an alloy frame. Top Gun Supply has them for 459 last I checked. Ridiculously good deal.

http://www.topgunsupply.com/cz-p01-handguns.html

 

[easyg]

The CZ 75B is a good pistol, but it is not without its faults...

It's a heavy gun.
If you want a range gun or a gun that you will keep beside the bed or in the truck, then the CZ 75B will do okay.
But if you want a carry gun you could do much better.

The slide is not as easy to quickly grip than many other pistols.

The trigger reset is rather long...much longer than the Glock's trigger reset.

The sights are a bit on the small side.
If you have less than average vision, they really aren't that great IMO.

Aftermarket parts and accessories can be hard to find, and the holster selection is rather poor when compared to more common handguns (like Glock, XD, S&W, Beretta, Sig, etc...).

 

[beltjones]

I have a 75b in 9mm and a Glock 17. I love them both dearly. My CZ has a comp hammer and SA trigger installed. I also went with a fiber optic front sight and target rear sight.

Still, I'm faster with the glock. My best time at an El Presidente drill with the CZ is 6.3 seconds, and 5.8 with the glock. I need to figure out where I'm losing the time with the CZ, because I'm pretty sure draw times are equal, and reload times are faster with the CZ. I think maybe the lower bore axis on the Glock amounts to faster split times between shots.

 

[GojuBrian]

alright so i plan to get a CZ-75b 9mm very very soon

i wonder a couple of things though; i will buy new, and was curious what sort of shape the pistol will likely be in when i receive it (covered in oil? totally dry?)

also, would the 22lr conv kit be a good purchase, or should i just get a 22 pistol later?

any known issues with the 75b?

what do you guys think of them?

You'll absolutely LOVE the cz75b. I chose the satin nickel version and couldn't be happier. I choose that over every other 9mm I've had, and I've had alot of 9mm's!

Mine was clean, but I field stripped it and cleaned it my own way like I do every firearm I purchase.

I don't have the conversion kit, but I think that would be ideal!

 

[Full Metal Jacket]

alright so i plan to get a CZ-75b 9mm very very soon

i wonder a couple of things though; i will buy new, and was curious what sort of shape the pistol will likely be in when i receive it (covered in oil? totally dry?) what difference does that make? most gunshops clean off the cosmoline before the sale, but if not-clean it yourself.


also, would the 22lr conv kit be a good purchase, or should i just get a 22 pistol later? .22 conversion kits are hit or miss--usually miss.

any known issues with the 75b? no.

what do you guys think of them? one of the best guns made.