CZ Choice

[TomJ]

I've been hearing only good things about CZ's, and will be trading one of my safe queens for either the 75B or P-01. A LGS has the 75B in stainless, and the ergonomics are outstanding. My question is whether I lose anything with the P-01 in regards to accuracy and reliability compared to the 75B, which from what I've read feeds just about anything, and whether the ergonomics are the same between the two. I'm a little uneasy about buying the P-01 site unseen. Finally, the stainless is over $100 more than the black version. Other than the looks, is there any reason to spend the extra $100+?

 

[EezyBeezy]

My question is whether I lose anything with the P-01 in regards to accuracy and reliability compared to the 75B, which from what I've read feeds just about anything, and whether the ergonomics are the same between the two.

IMO, you will not lose much accuracy or reliability with P-01 as to the full size models. I'm sure the P-01 is just as accurate and maybe more reliable than the full size models due it's stronger hammer/mainspring.

I'm a little uneasy about buying the P-01 site unseen. Finally, the stainless is over $100 more than the black version. Other than the looks, is there any reason to spend the extra $100+?

Mainly for looks, however, i've read/heard owners of the different stainless 75B models say that the triggers seem to be smoother than the standard models. Some said that the trigger components are somewhat polished up, maybe someone who owns one here can verify. Don't take my word for it since I really don't want get your hopes up. The stainless models are rather nice however.

 

[bannockburn]

Depends on what you want it for. I went with the P01 as I was looking for something a little smaller and more compact than a full size 9mm. for CCW.

 

[TomJ]

If the P01 shoots as well and is as reliable with the 75B, I'd go with it to also have the concealed option. If it doesn't, I'd rather have the 75B.

 

[9 fingers]

I sold my 3 year old 75b and bought a glossy blue one 6 months ago and the trigger on the new one is amazing, super smooth and light. I don't know if it has the Omega trigger and neither did CZ when I called them....typical as they do many special batches of guns and it seems no one is sure what the specs are. They asked me to send pics and they would tell me if it has the Omega bits in it, but I never bothered. Either way, superb guns and I think you should get the 75b, but not if it is going to be a full time carry gun.
9 fingers

 

[CNobbe]

The Omega model is only offered in black and has an Omega symbol engraved on it.

I have a couple of the glossy blued ones myself, love them.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

The Omega model is only offered in black and has an Omega symbol engraved on it.

Believe folks when they say that CZ sends out a bunch of unusual, oddball variants of the standard models from time to time. Back when they weren't seen on the sites or advertized, for example, you might find a nickle-plated CZ-97, a semi-compact (short slide, full-size frame) 75B, or an alloy-framed Compact (i.e., safety rather than decocker.) Other less-expected variants from the factory have been seen over the years. In this case, you're probably right, but with CZ, you never know.

 

[Pyzon]

Nothing puts a smile on my face like when I slide my polished SS 75B out and gaze at it.

Then I wipe the fingerprints off on the way to shoot it.

 

[viking499]

Nothing wrong with either the 75B or the P-01. Both are great guns. If you are looking for a CCW gun, also look at the PCR. It is very similar to the P-01, but without the light rail.

The advantage the 75 might have over the others is the longer sight radius due to its size and length. Depends on the shooter.

I prefer the smaller size guns due to the balance they seem to have in my hand. I have three compact size guns and one full size.

 

[JDR]

I wish they still made the Duo-Tone models with the satin nickle finish on the frame & the blued slide, I had one in .40 S&W once.

 

[tekarra]

I have 75Bs and 75 Compacts and while they are all fine pistols, I shoot tighter groups with the Compacts.

 

[Joeyp]

Can't go wrong with either

I have a CZ75B in the matte stainless and a duo tone CZ75B Compact. My brother has a P-01 in OD Green. I have shot all three and I prefer the compact. It is slightly lighter than the full size 75B, has the same grip dimensions, and doesn't give up much as far as sight radius.

My Brother's P-01 has been 100% reliable and came out of the box with a good trigger. I am not a big fan of the light rail, other than that I would consider getting one. I have to admit I really like it in the OD green finish.

 

[TomJ]

Thanks for the input. I just placed an order for the 75 Compact. Now comes the hard part, waiting for it to get here.

 

[EezyBeezy]

Right on! Pics and range report to follow.

 

[wow6599]

Nothing puts a smile on my face like when I slide my polished SS 75B out and gaze at it.

Like this?

 

[wingman]

Only advice I can give or rather a statement my 75B is the most accurate 9mm I've ever fired and 0 failures to date with hundreds of rounds, the browning like design is my favorite.

 

[hAkron]

I don't know if it has the Omega trigger and neither did CZ when I called them.

If the trigger bow is single sided, it's an omega. If it's a 2 sided wishbone style, it's not. If you measure the width of the hammer with a caliper, that will tell you also. The omega hammers are wider.

Probably not a special run, more likely a left over Blued CZ 75B from when that was a finish option (2010 and earlier I think).

 

[balance 740]

Finally, the stainless is over $100 more than the black version. Other than the looks, is there any reason to spend the extra $100+?

It is kind of hard to keep up with the different models of CZ pistols, but I believe the newer stainless model 75b pistols have a few different features when compared to the black polycoat models.

The stainless models come with a larger mag release, an up-swept beavertail, and an ambidextrous manual safety. You can see two of these differences just by comparing the photos in this thread from post #5 and post #15.

I, personally, would spend the extra $100, because I like the larger mag release, I find the beavertail allows me to get a higher grip compared to the standard model, and I shoot left-handed so the ambidextrous manual safety is a necessity for me as far as I'm concerned.

I believe the only black polycoat model that comes with these features is the 75B SA, which is the SAO model.

 

[WVsig]

Only advice I can give or rather a statement my 75B is the most accurate 9mm I've ever fired and 0 failures to date with hundreds of rounds, the browning like design is my favorite.

Browning like in appearance only. Internally they are very different guns.

To the OP the 75B and P01 are both great guns and should serve you well. For me it came down to which one fit me better. I have owned several 75Bs over the years but sold them because they did not "fit me" I have smaller hands.

The P01 however fits me like a glove so it stayed. More often than not it is not about which gun is "better" in a universal sense it is more about which gun is "better for me" in a very subjective way.

That said I recently picked up yet another 75B and just installed a set of slim CZC grips on it and think this one might be a keeper. Grips made a big difference.





Also if you are looking at any CZ I would recommend checking the exact gun you are taking home for "camming". Most if not all stock CZs will do it. Some a lot more than others. I have shot ones where you barely notice it others where it really impedes the trigger. It can be corrected by guys like CZ Customs and Cajun Gun Works but if you have the choice of say 3 75Bs try them all if you can and choose the one which cams the least.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

Finally, the stainless is over $100 more than the black version. Other than the looks, is there any reason to spend the extra $100+?

There are subtle differences between the frame of the stainless guns and the standard guns. Every one I've seen has an extended beavertail but I think at least one version has the standard beavertail. The stainless models also have ambidextrous safeties and a reversible mag release. The extended beavertail is nice -- and it's not just looks. The stainless CZs are a second generation of the 75B line, in effect., but unless you're left handed, some of the extras aren't important.

I think, but don't know for sure, that the 75B SA safety levers can be installed on the stainless frame. If you do cocked & locked, THAT change would be a real plus -- as the SA safeties are larger and much easier to use.

I've had a couple of high-gloss stainless guns, and never again -- they're about as much trouble as a blued gun to keep minor scratches, etc. unseen. A Matte stainless, to me, is almost ideal. My 85Combat is satin-nickle, and absolutely trouble free.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

have owned several 75Bs over the years but sold them because they did not "fit me" I have smaller hands.

The P01 however fits me like a glove so it stayed. More often than not it is not about which gun is "better" in a universal sense it is more about which gun is "better for me" in a very subjective way.

The only real differences between the CZ-75B which didn't fit you and the P-01, which did are: 1) the decocker-equipped P-01 starts from the half-cock notch (standard for all decocker-equipped CZs using the old trigger mechanism), and 2) the curved trigger of the P-01, which shortens trigger reach a bit (and also lightens the trigger a little). The grip frame (except for the length of the grip, which doesn't affect "reach") are so similar that any ifferences are meaningless.

Nowadays there are also after-market kits that shorten the trigger even further, and they work on both. It's a shame they weren't available when you had your 75Bs. Had you known to swap triggers and start from the half-cock notch if doing DA starts, you might have found your other 75Bs fit you well, too.

 

[WVsig]

The only real differences between the CZ-75B which didn't fit you and the P-01, which did are: 1) the decocker-equipped P-01 starts from the half-cock notch (standard for all decocker-equipped CZs using the old trigger mechanism), and 2) the curved trigger of the P-01, which shortens trigger reach a bit (and also lightens the trigger a little). The grip frame (except for the length of the grip, which doesn't affect "reach") are so similar that any ifferences are meaningless.

Yes the curved trigger and the half cock notch make a difference. There is for me something else about the pistols that handle differently in the grip. The last 75B I had I sold about the time schmecky aka Cajun Gun Works was developing his short reach trigger.

I could have swapped it with the P01 trigger but at the time it was a lot harder to get CZ parts so I moved on knowing that if I wanted one at a later date it would be easy enough to get one.

 

[Pyzon]

Like this?

Yep.

 

[StrutStopper]

I have a CZ75B in the matte stainless and a duo tone CZ75B Compact. My brother has a P-01 in OD Green. I have shot all three and I prefer the compact. It is slightly lighter than the full size 75B, has the same grip dimensions, and doesn't give up much as far as sight radius.

My Brother's P-01 has been 100% reliable and came out of the box with a good trigger. I am not a big fan of the light rail, other than that I would consider getting one. I have to admit I really like it in the OD green finish.

If you like the P-01 except for the light rail, you may really like the PCR. It's basically the same gun but without the rail.

 

[ritepath]

Love those CZC grips....I can see a set of those on my 75 if I ever manage to stop buying the P series plastic jobbers.