CZ Kadet Kit or Marvel kit?

[Northslope Nimrod]

CZ Kadet Kit questions

1. Can the Kadet pistol be used like the conversion kit (ie: put the upper on another frame)....or is the conversion kit needed for that?

2. How fast can one take the kit off a frame and put the regular slide etc back on and vica versa?

3. If I put a kit on my RAMI, how much lighter is it than the regular RAMI 9mm?

4. Where is the best place to purchase the kit or full Kadet? Good price?

 

[atblis]

1.
Yes you can use the Kadet upper from a Kadet pistol on other pistols (I do it). However there is the possibility it will be too tight, and I am not sure it would be a good idea to fit it to another pistol. But yes, it will work on other bottom ends.

2.
30 sec, 1 minute? It is extremely easy. Basically the same as field stripping.

3.
I think the Rami is the one pistol it will not work on

4.
You can buy the kit mail order because it is not a gun.
The pistols were selling for $285 not long ago around me. It will vary by where you live.

 

[Northslope Nimrod]

I have seen posts where people claimed that it works on the RAMI.

I'm still confused on your first paragraph. YOU use your upper of your Kadet on other pistols.....BUT you say it may be too tight if I try it? Please explain.

Also, you say the pistols are going for $285. In a local shop....they want $292 for the kit and $409 for the whole pistol.

Should I look for a cheap CZ 75 and use it as a dedicated bottom? If so, which one would you recommend?

 

[Trebor]

The Kadet hit has to be fit to the pistol it will be used with. You have to remove a small amount of metal with a file on the bearing surfaces of the kit itself to make it fit the gun. That means though that the kit will always fit and work best with the gun that it's been "mated" with. You could file enough away to make it fit any CZ 75, but then the tolerances will be looser and accuracy will suffer. My advice is to dedicate the kit to one specific gun.

I'd also call CZ USA and confirm that it will work on a RAMI before I buy a Kadet kit. I've also heard that the RAMI is the one pistol it will not work with.

 

[Trebor]

I just re-read your first question. The Kadet upper is also mated to the Kadet lower. It may or may not fit a regular CZ lower. If it fits with no problems, fine. However, I would STRONGLY advise against filing on the Kadet upper to make it fit a different pistol. If you do that, accuracy when it's used on it's original frame is likely to suffer.

 

[Furncliff]

I bought the Kadet kit last week. $265.00 at a gun shop in Richmond, Va. (DeGoff's) I seated the new upper (to my 75b frame) by using a compound that they gave me (I can't remember the name, Frist or Frits,,,sorry). Just rubbed the compound on the mating surfaces and worked the upper back and forth on the frame till it fit. Worked great. Had some stovepipes the first time out, I'm confident that will go away. I didn't weigh it but the upper was every bit as heavy as my 75b upper. Swopping uppers is fast and easy. It's a fun shooter.

from czusa.com

The CZ 75 Kadet conversion kit is a separate accessory for the CZ 75/85 pistol series allowing the firing of .22 LR caliber cartridges. The Kadet adapter features its own sights adjustable for elevation and windage, so the sighting-in of the pistol is not affected.. The kadet adapter will fit any CZ 75, 75B, 85 or 85B in any caliber. Some minor fitting may be required.



Product specifications


Price (MSRP) US$ 299.00
Product number (SKU) 01610

Ammunition
Ammo .22 LR
Magazine capacity 10

Dimensions
Weight 1 lbs
Overall Length 8.1 in
Barrel Length 4.7 in

Features
Sights adjustable
Saf

 

[Walt Sherrill]

The Kadet hit has to be fit to the pistol it will be used with. You have to remove a small amount of metal with a file on the bearing surfaces of the kit itself to make it fit the gun. That means though that the kit will always fit and work best with the gun that it's been "mated" with. You could file enough away to make it fit any CZ 75, but then the tolerances will be looser and accuracy will suffer. My advice is to dedicate the kit to one specific gun

Well, actually, fitting on other guns shouldn't have much effect on accuracy -- as the slide doesn't move.

The barrel and slide are fixed, with just an insert moving. The barrel stays where it is -- and the sights and barrel stay where they are. Its like most .22s -- a fixed barrel. As long as the barrel and sights keep their relative positions (and there's no reason they shouldn't) a sloppy fit on the frame shouldn't really matter.

I have a kit on my 85 Combat. It is fitted to that gun, and I've never bothered trying to make it work with my other CZs (which come and go.) I've also, presently, got an 75 Compact and a 75B SA, now, have had many different CZs...

This kit will only fit my 85 Combat without mods. It could be made to work with the 75B SA and Compact, too... but why bother?

If you want an accurate .22, the Kadet Kit is great -- if you already have a CZ.

If you want a VERY ACCURATE .22, the Marvel Kit is exceptional -- but quite expensive -- if you already have a 1911.

From scratch, having both a CZ and a 1911 -- my choice would depend on what I wanted to do. If I wanted to practice with my IDPA gun, cheaply, I'd probably get the Kadet Kit. But if I want to do some SERIOUS Bullseye-type competition, I'd get the Marvel. (They guarantee a sub-1" group at 50 yards. Not many other .22s will do that.)