I'm wanting to know what are the differences between the 75 compact and the p 01. I know the compact is steel and the 01 is aluminum but what about the triggers and sights? The 75 compact I was looking at had a safety and I think a 01 I looked at before had a decocker. Is this the way they all are? There seems to be a lot of variations And don't want to buy one and then find out there is a different version that I would have rather have. I would like to hear from people that have shot and actually own one or both to see what your thoughts are. Thanks for the help.
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gotboostvr
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Well, there's a few 75 compacts...
The normal 75 compact is a steel frame, no rail and a safety.
I have a 75D compact, it's an alloy frame, decocker and has a rail. it's exactly the same as a P01. Just a different roll stamp for a different export market.
There's also a small batch of SP01 compacts out, steel frame with rail and decocker. Edit: they have a safety
There's also the 75 PCR, which is an alloy frame, no rail and a decocker.
Then there's a P01 Omega. Alloy frame with rail, and can be converted to either a decocker or safety.
The normal 75 compact is a steel frame, no rail and a safety.
I have a 75D compact, it's an alloy frame, decocker and has a rail. it's exactly the same as a P01. Just a different roll stamp for a different export market.
There's also a small batch of SP01 compacts out, steel frame with rail and decocker. Edit: they have a safety
There's also the 75 PCR, which is an alloy frame, no rail and a decocker.
Then there's a P01 Omega. Alloy frame with rail, and can be converted to either a decocker or safety.
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ClickClickD'oh
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If there one thing that is certain with CZ, it's that almost nothing is certain. They produce a lot of small run variations where you can find odd things like CZ-75s with CZ-85 style ambi controls.
Just when you think you can say, "If this, then alloy", there is now a CZ-75D Compact that is steel framed and has a safety but also has a P-01 rail on it.
So, in compact you can get, aluminium frame decocker with rail, aluminum frame decocker without rail, steel frame with safety with rail and steel frame with safety without rail.
There are some pusedo constants though. Almost all -75 based guns share the same sights. The PCR being the exception. It uses different sights.
If it doesn't say "Omega" or "SA", -75 based guns all use the same trigger.
But don't worry. Chances are that once you get and shoot one, you'll soon want to buy all the rest so you can have one of each.
Just when you think you can say, "If this, then alloy", there is now a CZ-75D Compact that is steel framed and has a safety but also has a P-01 rail on it.
So, in compact you can get, aluminium frame decocker with rail, aluminum frame decocker without rail, steel frame with safety with rail and steel frame with safety without rail.
There are some pusedo constants though. Almost all -75 based guns share the same sights. The PCR being the exception. It uses different sights.
If it doesn't say "Omega" or "SA", -75 based guns all use the same trigger.
But don't worry. Chances are that once you get and shoot one, you'll soon want to buy all the rest so you can have one of each.
everydefense
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My PCR (compact, alloy frame, no rail) is marked as a CZ 75 D Compact. This differs from the standard compact which has a steel frame and a safety (still no rail). The P-01 is very similar to to the PCR, but has a full-length dust cover to allow for a rail below.
Despite the extended dust cover, I believe that the PCR and P-01 are similar in weight, and besides the rail have the same features. Both are fantastic guns with great reputations- you really can't go wrong, unless you absolutely want a safety rather than a decocker. In that case, go with the steel frame compact.
Despite the extended dust cover, I believe that the PCR and P-01 are similar in weight, and besides the rail have the same features. Both are fantastic guns with great reputations- you really can't go wrong, unless you absolutely want a safety rather than a decocker. In that case, go with the steel frame compact.
The sights and triggers are the same on each model, unless it is an Omega trigger(newest ones). But even on those, the sights are still the same.
I currently have a PCR and P-01. Both are alloy frames. One has a rail and the other does not. I like the alloy over the steel and prefer the decocker over the safety.
Thanks for the replies. CZ sure seems to mix it up. The one I was looking at was the 75D compact it had the rail and safety and was steel. What is the omega trigger and how is it different. I think I would want the aluminum p01 just to save a little weight for cc. Is there a difference in how they shoot? Thanks
Sounds like the SP-01 compact.
The Omega trigger is a little cheaper to produce, has fewer moving parts and allows the option of swapping between safety and decocker.
You can get the P-01 alloy frame with either a standard CZ trigger with a decocker or the P-01 Omega with the new style trigger and the ability to swap between safety or decocker.
All CZ's I have ever had have been shooters. Most will benefit from new sights or a little trigger work.
gotboostvr
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Other than a little less recoil with the steel frames, they don't shoot appreciably different from each other.
everydefense
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That's the truth!
Just take a look at the following two models. Both have slides that are marked "CZ 75 D Compact":
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-d-pcr-compact-black-alloy-9mm-14-rd-mags/
http://www.czub.cz/en/produkty/pistole/compact/cz-75-d-compact.html
I have the original 75B omega (safety only), not the convertible model. Does anyone know if I can put the straight trigger in from the new 75B omega convertible? I know I can't put a straight standard 75B trigger in. I would prefer the straight trigger
bikerdoc
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Welcome to CZ nation.
If you will be carrying it you might prefer the PCR instead of the P-01 due to the absence of the rail and the presence of the loaded chamber indicator (works by feel or sight). Both are decocker guns. I also suggest going with the non-Omega trigger because I know from experience that those can be as sweet as you want them to be, depending upon your preferences and what parts you install. (There doesn't appear to be any widespread complaints on the Omega trigger, though, so it may suit you just fine.) I love the CGW Ultra-Lite kits in my regular-triggered CZs. Here's a photo with the P-01 and the PCR side by side. If you get the PCR, order yourself one of the rubber mag extensions and it'll make the grip area long enough to fill your hand without your pinky resting on the mag base plate (this base comes on the P-01 mags but not the PCR).
If it isn't for carrying, I suggest you seriously consider an 85 Combat or possibly one of the guns more specifically intended for range use. The Compact versions are SUPER-sweet shooters for their size, but the full-size guns are even better, IMO.
Does your PCR have the grooved trigger face while the P-01 is smooth? I assume this is/has been standard for both of these guns, but wondering if yours are this way as well. I agree about the decocker being nice, especially for a carry gun. I like the CZ safety just fine, but I also wouldn't mind if mine were all decockers.
Ain't that the truth?
While I have a PCR with a decocker (and love it), I prefer the safety version of the CZ's as on my 75B, Pre-B, and 97B. I can decock with my thumb easily and safely. The non decocker triggers have less parts, and are easier to work on as well. Nothing wrong with decockers, I just think the are unnecessary.
Yes, forgot about that. It was on there for about 2 days before it was swapped for a 85 trigger.
I went back to the gun shop and now they have a p01 too. The one I looked at the other day was the steel compact no rail with safety, I had it mixed up. I was ready to get the 01 but think I would rather have the pcr instead as I don't think I will ever need a light and probably will want t carry it. Decisions decisions, back to the shop to see if they can get a pcr. Thanks for all the info
gotboostvr
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Tallball, that's the trick.
Figuring out exactly which feature set, on which frame you want and why they multiply so much.
Yeah, I've got a Decococker P01, but a safety P02 sounds pretty cool too!
Figuring out exactly which feature set, on which frame you want and why they multiply so much.
Yeah, I've got a Decococker P01, but a safety P02 sounds pretty cool too!
I only have one CZ - an SP-01 Tactical. I've only had it a few months, but it has quickly become my favorite pistol. It's a really sweet shooter, and the most accurate pistol (in my hands) that I own. Now I want another CZ, but I'm just not sure which flavor I want.
Walt Sherrill
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Unless I misunderstood your comments, I don't think so... Unless someone swapped slides, etc. (That can be done!), a "75D" model,, by definition, can't have a safety -- as the D denotes "Decocker." There IS a new CZ P-01 Omega, which gives the owner the option of switching from safety to decocker (or vice versa), but that model has an alloy frame. The newer alloy-framed guns now have reversible mag releases, but I don't think that's the case with the new steel-framed Compact.
It has been a CZ naming convention for years that the steel-framed 75B Compact is considered a MODEL, identified by a capital C, ala Compact while the term "compact" indicates a gun SIZE. (The 40B was considered a compact!).
The frame of the steel Compact model is slightly different than the alloy framed compact; you can see this by comparing the area under/behind the decocker, as that area is thicker than the same area on the steel frames. The P-01 frame is different with a full-length dust cover and accessory rail.
Your larger point is valid, however, as CZ has, from time to time, spit out some oddball guns: full-size frames (steel) with compact slides (known as semi-compacts), alloy-framed compacts with safeties [very rare], and now that they're doing Omega triggers, the output may become even more esoteric. (I've seen a small run of satin nickel CZ-97Bs ... and it is sometimes possible to get some high-gloss blued models.)
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larryh1108
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Another vote for the PCR. Mine beat out a Kahr PM9 and a Kimber Solo for my carry 9. I sold both of them because they lost their job. It is also the most accurate (in my hands) gun I own and the alloy frame makes it easy to carry. It is a little chunky but it carries 14+1 and is a double stack. It is also a very reliable gun. No negatives on this CZ.
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