I know they are a good value, the price sure seems right. I'm thinking about a .308 for boar, deer, maybe even elk hunting someday (whatever is delicious) . I'll be a new hunter too, though my research tells me their Mauser type action is nice and reliable. Also are there any good/bad sides to getting one with a detachable magazine over internal magazine? I doubt I'll be shooting that many pigs at once to need a few magazines of .308 but I do like the versatility of it.