Cz75B pro's and Con's ?

[Pilot]

The CZ75 was state of the art for mid 70s but the design is bit long in the tooth by now being too heavy for 9x19 duty pistol. While SIG 226 is better choice it is overpriced for what one gets. Equally capable alloy framed Gen 3 Smith & Wesson in excellent condition can be bought for about half the money.

If you look at the CZ website you'll see a plethora of pistols in all sizes, frame material, and weight. All steel full size, all steel compact, alloy framed compact, polymer, etc. Lots of new stuff in recent years.

http://www.cz-usa.com

CZ is certainly out of the 70's.

 

[Acera]

I would consider a CZ-85 before a standard 75, due to it's ambidexterity.

Some tidbits about the CZ, it was the base gun that Jeff Cooper working with Dornaus and Dixon used to develop the Bren 10, and the 10mm cartridge. Cooper had many favorable things to say about them back then (when they were hard to get in the US.), but most of that is forgotten because many feel he only liked the 1911.

Most Americans don't seem to understand that there is a gun world outside the US. CZs are highly respected the world over.

 

[Holland&Holland]

There are a couple of issues that I've heard of.

First, they do not recommend dry fire practice as it can damage the firing pin lock plunger added to the B model. The B also eliminated the Browning 1911/P-35 "firing pin stop" and thus it complicates detail stripping somewhat.

Second, every B I've ever handled had a lousy SA trigger pull...lots of take up, and a creepy 5.5 - 6.0 lb pull. Longish reset too. A decent smith can deal with the creep, but you're probably stuck with the reset.

Third, while the pistol's ergo package is sound, they are pretty thick and this complicates CCW.

Fourth, this may be a more minor point-the slide stop is still a recoil absorbing component that must also be removed for stripping/cleaning.

Finally, fifth, the DA first pull is quite long, and there's a long LOP that goes with it.

For the good side, the thumb safety design and placement/function are great...better than most latter day 1911s which are usually way too "light" in operation, and it doesn't need any kind of extended "Tactical" lever to work properly.

The grip frame is nicely rounded, typical for a metal framed pistol. More comfortable.

Sights are huge and easy to acquire.

When the trigger is fine, I'd possibly like it better than a P-35...but it's a tank to carry compared to that pistol.

 

[Carter]

With a few upgrades from cajun gun works my CZ's SA trigger rivals that of any 1911 I've shot.


Enough said.

 

[Ash]

Dry firing was a problem a decade and a half ago, but the roll pin is no longer a problem. It was not even a long-term issue and did not consistently happen and was less than a buck to fix.

 

[miles1]

Hello,
My name is Miles and im a CZ addict.

Bought a CZ75b a month ago and have put about 400 trouble free rounds.Absolutley love this gun.

 

[DaveShooter]

Had 'em all pistols and revolvers. IMHO---CZ 75B all the way for me, Got a 97B in lay-away. Yes I too am a CZ addict I got it bad for CZ's......

 

[1SOW]

I have a 9mm 75B with give-or-take 60K rds through it in practice and comp.
The Bad:
NIB: The DA trigger pull is long and somewhat heavy. The SA trigger pull is rough and the hammer does "cam back" before dropping.
---after 500+ trigger pulls it smooths out nicely. A little 400-600 grit carborundum paper can smooth it out in maybe an hour.
---changing the hammer spring to 15# for $7 (comes with 20#) improves the DA pull a lot immediately, and is 100% reliable for any reputable ammo or pistol use.
---numerous 'drop-in' trigger kits are available for way less $$ than the SIG. The change from just getting a CZ Comp. Hammer or Cajun Gun Works Hammer Kit is truly amazing: no hammer camming, and a crisp clean drop.
--I broke a slide stop at around 16K rds.
--I broke a trigger spring shortly after 16Krds (plus a million dry-fires).
--I didn't like the stock sights for competition use.
The CZ Custom Shop "Competition Rear Sight and Fiber optic front sight" pkg is excellent for range and Comp. use. They also offer night sights, three-dot and adjustable rear sight options.,

The Good:
--The B model can handle dry fire fine

-- In comp I routinely drop my mags in S.TX dirt and sand with literally no ill affects. I wipe them on my pants leg and reload.

--The weight and balance makes it point well (very similar to a 1911) and gives very fast follow-up shots. More weight up front, like the SPO1, makes follow-up shots even faster; but the added weight makes swinging left and right slower for me. (My son has a Shadow I have used)

-- Versatile for different uses: Can be fired DA, cocked and locked SA or from half-cock.

-- The CZ 75 (all models) mags interchange. The SPO1 19 rd mags fit the 75B and vice-versa. Like Sig and maybe 6 more major gun manufacturers, the mags are made by Mec-Gar and reliable. My two original mags work just as well (100%) as my four newer Mec-Gars.
I have made two routine mag spring replacements for all the mags.

The pistol is accurate, reliable and moderately priced in a version for your use.

The pistol is what CZ says it is, and can easily be made remarkable. Mine is around 6#-2.6# DA/SA

 

[millertyme]

Kind of curious here, but is the old CZ-75 trigger better in general than the 75B model on stock pistols apples to apples? When I get rid of this striker-fired mishap of mine I might just find me a pre-B model if the trigger is better in general.

 

[nathan]

Those CZ 75 Bs should be fine. One of the best service pistols out there.

 

[Ash]

The trigger is better, and I'm a big pre-B fan, but the current 75b's are better supported on the after market these days.

 

[et2041]

I have a 75B SAO....Love it

After 20 years of Glock Duty use, I added a CZ75B SA to my livery. I wanted a SA 9mm for carry/3 Gun and wanted something made of steel for a change. I love my Glocks, still the best out of the box combat pistol in my opinion, but for a change of pace bought this.

I originally wanted a Hi Power, which is still on my wish list. The Hi Power just was out of my price range for the time being and I wanted something that would be easy to tune at home. I would love to have a Novak Spec Ops custom but $3000+ is too much. The price point on a 75B SA is great...if you can find one. Parts are plentiful via CZ Custom and Cajun Gun Works and there is a great amount of information and help on the CZ Forums to get you started.

I added a Comp Trigger, Comp Hammer, adjustable sear, Trijicon Tactical Sights, Coco Bolo's and an extended firing pin. I have not tested the trigger pull weight but I would estimate it is around 3 pounds and very crisp.

It has had some teething problems, but I have ironed them out and to be honest the problems were caused by myself, not the pistol.

 

[JTQ]

Good looking pistol et2041, and welcome to the forum.

The CZ75B S/A would be my choice in the CZ75 line-up. Both the trigger and the thumb safeties would be more accessible for me.

 

[Litlman]

No cons, only pros here. That is why I have av 85 combat. 75 B, 75 B compact and a full Kadet.

 

[tekarra]

Hello er2041 and welcome aboard.
I bought my first cZ some thirty years ago and they are still my favourite pistol Have qcquired a few since then and have never had a problem with any of them that was not attributable to the shooter.

 

[Omaney]

In a moment of weakness I traded my 75B for a Winchester 94. I really liked that pistol. I won't make the same mistake with my PCR. Gonna get a stainless 75B soon.

 

[Kiln]

CZ's are over rated and overpriced for what you get. If you want a gun for range use they are above average in accuracy, way below average in durability and reliability. I'd never use one as a personal defense weapon. Range toy only. And then only after every spring in the gun and every magazine were replaced.

There is a reason they are only used by a handful of 3rd world countries for LE and military use. When tested side by side with Glocks, Sigs, S&W, and Beretta they just can't keep up.

They have a few internet fanboys who make a lot of noise creating the illusion they are popular. I couldn't find a dozen of them in every gunshop within a 75 mile radius of where I live. Going to the largest gunshow in the Atlanta area wouldn't net more than 3-4 CZ's at the entire show.

Do an internet search of all the gun forums and you will find more posts about CZ problems than any other brand. Quite an accomplishment considering how few they sell. Wouldn't be surprised if Glock alone didn't outsell them 10,000/1.

I had a few CZ's at one time, bought mostly because of internet praise. Liked them well enough at first, but quickly found out why it is often called the errornet. Sold mine and wouldn't want another.

Give it a rest. You are one of the only people on the web who constantly trash talks CZ products. I see you in nearly every single CZ thread on here spouting the same garbage.

 

[et2041]

Remember the 80's?

When the CZ 75 first hit our shores? They were a VERY high demand handgun, hard to find and you paid a higher price point for them (for the day) than a Beretta 92 (also highly sought).

Some of the desire of course came from it being a WARPAC handgun, but once shooters here in the states got their hands on them and started raving about them, they were often talked about as being one of the finest 9mm out there.

It is amazing what an evolution of semi autos we have had in the past 30 years. I remember handling a Glock for the first time in 1986 and thinking what a cheap piece of plastic junk it was. The Media went crazy over them saying they could be smuggled aboard an aircraft...because it was "plastic". I now own 2 of them and my duty weapon has been one for over 20 years.

I digress........

 

[SKILCZ]

I own several CZs, and I love every one of them. The CZ 75 is still my favorite handgun to shoot. It has great ergonomics, little recoil, and is very accurate. Mine has literally never failed in any way, and I bought it used. I'm partial to the decocker versions.

The only con I can see about them is that prices have gone up quite a bit in the last several years. You used to be able to pick up a used CZ-75 for $300 all day long, but now they're quite a bit more expensive.

Buy one and you won't regret it. You'll probably end up buying more CZs. They have good long guns, too.

 

[glassman]

I had a 75 compact but sold it. The gun was accurate, reliable and easy to maintain. Over all, a good gun. Initially, the trigger was gritty but it smoothed out with use. The down side,in my hand, was the long reach for the trigger when shot in double action, long take up when shot in single and the placement of the safety. My short fingers just didn't match up with the way the gun was designed. I'm not bashing the CZ. Trying to give you my experience and things to look for when you examine your potential purchase. Good luck with it.

 

[Pilot]

I had a 75 compact but sold it. The gun was accurate, reliable and easy to maintain. Over all, a good gun. Initially, the trigger was gritty but it smoothed out with use. The down side,in my hand, was the long reach for the trigger when shot in double action, long take up when shot in single and the placement of the safety. My short fingers just didn't match up with the way the gun was designed. I'm not bashing the CZ. Trying to give you my experience and things to look for when you examine your potential purchase. Good luck with it.

I've heard that before, and think its a legitimate issue. What helps many is starting out on the half cock notch in DA mode, which the gun is designed to do. The other is some trigger work to make it smoother, lighter with less take up in SA. Not hard to do with drop in parts, or by sending it to CZ Custom.

The CZ's fit me well with no mods, but I have large hands and long fingers.

PS. Say high to Saxer Ave for me!

 

[Ky Larry]

Why would I care if the CZ-75 is a 1970's design? If it worked then, it will still work now. Newer doesn't always mean better.

 

[kazaam]

Gonna buy a polished stainless CZ 75B whenever its available! Think I'm set on polished over matte at the moment.

Question: I've fired a Glock 22 and a Ruger SR22. How different will the CZ 75B feel from those?

 

[Bullet Bob]

The biggest con, for me, is that they caused me to lie to myself. I told myself a couple of years ago that I was done buying guns. Heck, I've got at least eight 9mm's already, and I'm a revolver guy.

Then I held a 75 for the first time, not sure how I've been shooting over 40 adult years without doing that before. It felt great, and after reading the various forums, I went looking for an 85 Combat. The local shops said they couldn't get one, and I happened to be looking at the CZ USA Custom Shop website when they got some in, so I ordered one and had them put in a competition hammer, and a trigger job before sending it out.

When it came in, I took it and my old favorite Browning High Power to the range; the HP has had the magazine safety removed and a light trigger job.
Right out of the box, I shot the CZ better than any other 9mm I've ever shot. I'm not looking for concealed carry guns, I'm set there.

I thought well, if the 85 is so good, I'll bet the 75 Tactical Sport is even more fun at the range. More money down the tube. If I ever see a blued 75, I might lie to myself again.

 

[777TRUTH]

Nice pics Bullet Bob.

I love the look of the 75 TS but have not shot one yet. I keep going back and forth over a 75 TS or a Dan Wesson 1911.

I may have to lie to myself and get both