CZ75b or SR1911???

[M&PVolk]

To me the advantages of the Ruger are Ruger's support should any problems be had, a good price on a proven design and an attractive design. The cons are how the traditional 1911 fits my hand without being bobbed (bobbed fits great) and the finicky nature that some 1911's can have. Also, I am not sure what to expect from a lower end 1911.

Advantages of the CZ75b .40cal are the way it fits the hand (nothing else is even close), attractiveness, accuracy and the ability to carry condition 1 or condition 2. Disadvantages are that they aren't always finished as nice internally (doesn't effect performance), and the gun was never designed around .40 (not interested in 9mm) from the start so reliability may be in question.

Given a choice between the new Ruger or a CZ75b .40 satin nickel, which would you get and why?

 

[chicharrones]

I wouldn't be able to choose between the two. I like them both.

I guess for me it would depend on the deal I got on the gun at the time and the ammo I happen to already have on hand which gun I got first.

 

[Caliper_Mi]

I'd go with the SR1911 because I'm not interested in .40. I wouldn't call any Ruger gun "lower end" though. They may not put a big price or fancy finish on their guns but we've never had a problem with the seven Rugers we've got here. They shoot straight and reliably.

For you, it sounds like the CZ75 would be the choice because it fits your hand better. I know I've never enjoyed shooting guns that don't fit me well and an uncomfortable grip will knock a pistol off my "want" list pretty quick. If you really want a 1911 however, you would probably be better off bobbing the Ruger or just buying a pistol that comes that way.

You might also want to think that those two pistols are worlds apart: double stack DA/SA and single stack SA. Which platform appeals more to you?

 

[JTQ]

I have no love for nickel. Seems like a finish with no advantages other than it is shinny. CZ offers a shinny stainless model if that is what you want.

I'm not sure how a bobtail affects the fit of a pistol for you? The bobtail was conceived to improve conceal-ability not fit. I believe the conceal-ability advantage is often overstated. To me, a bobtail is mostly a fashion statement.

I agree the CZ feels good in the hand, but I can reach the trigger much easier on a 1911 and the thumb safety is also easier for me to manipulate on a 1911. So for me, the 1911 is a better fit.

CZ .40S&w problems I've read concerned being shipped with the wrong slide stop, a 9mm version. Once that was fixed the guns seemed to work fine. I would assume they are beyond that problem.

Ruger probably does have better customer service, but I think CZ is probably good enough if you ever had a problem.

 

[Thompsoncustom]

Cz customer service is also outstanding...... Flip a coin maybe?

 

[Mr.Blue]

I have a CZ 75B .40 cal in Satin Nickel and like it a lot. I'm a huge CZ fan, but also a 1911 fan. It's a tough call. What caliber do you prefer? To me, I like .45acp.

You can't go wrong with either gun.

 

[jmr40]

Had CZ's, don't like em. I'd go Ruger in a minute.

 

[Ohio Gun Guy]

Love my CZ75b, but have been drooling over that ruger also.

This is a "pick-em" if there ever was.... If you can find a ruger in stock that is.

 

[HDCamel]

What other guns do you have?
If one fills a niche more than the other than I'd go for that one. If both fill a niche then flip a coin.

Also, though the Cz wasn't designed around the .40 cal, the parent cartridge (10mm) WAS designed around a gun based on the Cz 75.

 

[Mr.Blue]

I thought it about it some more. I think I would go with the CZ. I like the Ruger 1911, but would prefer to get a higher end 1911 if it was my first 1911. Here is a picture of my satin nickel CZ 75B in .40 S&W. I was worried about the finish, but it has been very durable. It is a nice looking gun, especially in this finish. I am not a fan of the stainless CZ's, as they look too gaudy for me.

I have subsequently put the Hogue wrap around grips on the gun. I think they complement the .40 S&W snap recoil impulse.

I feel that the 75B platform has the least recoil in .40S&W that I have felt. It is definitely better than the Beretta 96 and Beretta 90-Two in that regard. The only negative with the CZ is the low capacity of 10. For a full size .40 I expected more capacity.

 

[M&PVolk]

blueyes wrote: I wouldn't call any Ruger gun "lower end" though.

For clarification, I didn't mean to imply the Ruger is a low end gun so much as that, on the 1911 scale, it is mass produced gun with lots of investment casting and MIM, which makes it affordable, but also differentiates it from a custom 1911 or some of the higher end guns.

JTQ Wrote: I have no love for nickel. Seems like a finish with no advantages other than it is shinny. CZ offers a shinny stainless model if that is what you want.

I'm not sure how a bobtail affects the fit of a pistol for you? The bobtail was conceived to improve conceal-ability not fit. I believe the conceal-ability advantage is often overstated. To me, a bobtail is mostly a fashion statement.

Polished stainless would be way over the top for me. I like the black and the satin nickel finish on the CZ. I have heard the black polycoat is a little less durable and can chip. Also, the satin nickel raises the CZ price and makes it more comparable to the Ruger.

FWIW, the cosmetics of the bobtail design on the 1911 may have been the driving factor behind the mod, but it definitely changes the feel for me and makes the grip more natural.

Both guns are very cool and I want a nice accurate steel gun. I like .40 and .45, but .40 is always more readily available and cheaper in my area. I am interested in being able to use single action, and both guns provide it. Does anyone have both?

 

[Mr.Blue]

The black polycoat is very very durable IMHO. I use my SP-01 for action pistol shooting and don't have one scratch or chip.

Both my 75B and 97BD are black polycoat. They haven't been used as much as my SP-01, but neither has any noticable blemishes. I wouldn't worry about the finish wearing prematurely.