Czech weapons underated?
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MrDig
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Of particular Value for the money are the Mil Surp/LE trade ins like the CZ 82/83 that seem to be ubiquitous. The only complaints I hear are that detail stripping them is like arm wrestling an octopus and putting them back together is worse
Bohemus
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Czech has a history of fine weapons as far back as WW II. The ZB37 design is pretty spectacular.
If you czech out etymology of such words as a pistol and howitzer, you ll find out it goes back way futher than just ww2
Any yes i would love to own TK vz.37 ZB53.
Quick Shot xMLx
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I really liked the underrepresented comment, at least when it comes to the CZ pistols. A lot of people know about them but you just don't see that many around when compared to other manufacturers.
Now I think the VZ58 is underrated. Anytime I mention one as an alternative to someone looking for an Arsenal or something like that I'm met with crickets. People simply don't know about them.
Now I think the VZ58 is underrated. Anytime I mention one as an alternative to someone looking for an Arsenal or something like that I'm met with crickets. People simply don't know about them.
armoredman
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fatcat, an interesting tidbit in the new CZ catalog, (1-800-955-4486), is a brief, ever so brief mention of a semi-auto version of the EVO being seen in the Czech Republic...
Quick Shot, point them to this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-WD_pkAx9s
Quick Shot, point them to this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-WD_pkAx9s
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I baan a CZ fan for 30 years, back then the 75's had to be imported through Canada. Design, quality, and reliability, are as good as any, and better than most. The country is just coming out of a split with Slovakia and occupation by the Russians.
They are the best deal out there now, German, and Swiss craftsmanship, but prices there are still low. Another few years they will be priced like their neighbors firearms. HIGH!
They are the best deal out there now, German, and Swiss craftsmanship, but prices there are still low. Another few years they will be priced like their neighbors firearms. HIGH!
Buck Nekkid
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I, too, am a CZ-aholic! I've got about a dozen CZ pistols, one in every caliber that they have ever produced. My oldest is a CZ 24 (1927) and my newest is a polished stainless 75B. They are just awesome!!
My refinished/re-gripped CZ 82--one of my favorites!
My refinished/re-gripped CZ 82--one of my favorites!
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A CZ 455 American is on my short list. Not sure about under rated. I notice that the CZ forum over at RFC typically has the most users at any given time.
toivo
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Are there others? I thought it was only the shotguns. I heard a rumor that the new 512 rimfire semi- auto is made in Italy, but as far as I know, all the others are made by CZ in the Czech Republic.
I'm a big CZ fan. I have two 452 rimfires: a Trainer and a Full-Stock (Mannlicher type). I have Brno aperture sights on the Trainer, and I once shot a 99 out of 100 with it in my club's Sporterifle league.
(Shot at 50 ft., standing, offhand, unsupported.)I also have two CZ-82s in 9x18 Makarov and two CZ-83s: one in .380 and one in 32. Yeah, I'm a fan.
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armoredman
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No, the 512 is all CZ. The rifles and pistols are all CZ - the shotguns imported into the US are Huglu and Arrak brands. Good solid guns with good pedigrees. I like my CZ 712 semi auto - it rocks.
I like my CZ 712 semi auto - it rocks.
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The Third Reich thought highly of them, they got a great deal of production out of the Skoda Works-my CZ 27 has the Waffenamt stamp. Its ergonomics are a little clunky, but it is well made.
The Brits thought pretty highly too, adopting the ZB-26/30/33 as the Bren gun. You can make a pretty strong case for that family being the best LMG ever made.
Here's a Czech rifle you've probably never seen before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TTGC4zz6eA
Here's a Czech rifle you've probably never seen before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TTGC4zz6eA
rodinal220
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The CZ Sa 23 series(Sa 24, Sa 25, and Sa 26) of SMGs influenced Uziel Gals design of the world famous UZI Smg,notably the hands-find-hands mag/pistol grip and the telescoping bolt.
Boxhead
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They have, for years, and continue to build some of the finest guns out there.
Twmaster
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Under represented are the words I'd use to describe CZ and Czech firearms in general.
I own 2 CZ handguns including a relatively new P-07 in 9MM. I also own two BRNO rifles. A 1931 vz.24 and a 1950 ZKM-468 .22LR single shot bolt gun.
Add to that a Czech .177 pellet rifle.
The P-07 will be in my carry line-up so you can say I trust my life to that pistol.
I own 2 CZ handguns including a relatively new P-07 in 9MM. I also own two BRNO rifles. A 1931 vz.24 and a 1950 ZKM-468 .22LR single shot bolt gun.
Add to that a Czech .177 pellet rifle.
The P-07 will be in my carry line-up so you can say I trust my life to that pistol.
Dak0ta;
As many others on this thread have stated, I have several CZ firearms. The CZ452 is a very high quality rimfire rifle that enjoys a sterling reputation for accuracy. I've never heard a complaint about a major problem with one of their guns. Minor complaints, sure even had one of my own, but CZ also has a enviable reputation for taking care of those immediately with no hassle.
900F
As many others on this thread have stated, I have several CZ firearms. The CZ452 is a very high quality rimfire rifle that enjoys a sterling reputation for accuracy. I've never heard a complaint about a major problem with one of their guns. Minor complaints, sure even had one of my own, but CZ also has a enviable reputation for taking care of those immediately with no hassle.
900F
Blackstone
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Definitely going to pick up a CZ452 as my first rimfire, already have a CZ 75 Shadow pistol
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Quick Shot xMLx.:
Lots of those AK owners will wish that they had read up on the VZ 58.
I can't imagine spending $500 or more on a rifle that is a higher-end AK but still has no BHO or the other features of the VZ.
Some simply want multiple, cheap AK magazines to fill.
Lots of those AK owners will wish that they had read up on the VZ 58.
I can't imagine spending $500 or more on a rifle that is a higher-end AK but still has no BHO or the other features of the VZ.
Some simply want multiple, cheap AK magazines to fill.
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For instance, the DW 1911s that are CZ branded...
bikerdoc
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Another big fan here. Never understood why they are not more popular.
Not true. Dan Wesson is owned by CZ-USA (which is owned by CZ AFAIK.)
One hears a lot of praise and very few complaints about CZ firearms.
I've had a CZ-75B (and the Kadet .22 adapter) for 15 years and a CZ-527 carbine for ten. Excellent guns.
Ken
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I have a beautiful BRNO ZKM 611.
That's her below the Remington Gallery Gun.
Hate to admit that I've never fired her, but she was unfired, other than factory test target, when I bought her a few years back at an estate auction. Have the test target, original box, manual etc. One day I'll get tired of her taking up space in my gun safe and sell her. Leaving her in the safe unfired may be the hardest dang thing I've ever done. I guess you could say mine is over appreciated and underutilized. My next 22lr purchase will be a CZ BA to shoot, and shoot often.
That's her below the Remington Gallery Gun.
Hate to admit that I've never fired her, but she was unfired, other than factory test target, when I bought her a few years back at an estate auction. Have the test target, original box, manual etc. One day I'll get tired of her taking up space in my gun safe and sell her. Leaving her in the safe unfired may be the hardest dang thing I've ever done. I guess you could say mine is over appreciated and underutilized. My next 22lr purchase will be a CZ BA to shoot, and shoot often.
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