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LOL! On 2nd thought, I doubt you'll find much help around here!
+1 to washing your clothing though!
Darn, my media went bad!
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+1 to washing your clothing though!
Gamestalker, I have posted the same info before, and this idea is still just as unpopular as ever.
You'd think the same people that pick up other peoples' litter out of the dirt and weeds so that they can clean and reload it would be more receptive to this sort of idea.
When I am sanding finished wood, I use mineral spirits and/or mineral oil to keep the sandpaper unclogged. And I might go over the sandpaper with a brush every now and then to restore the paper. But eventually it stops working. If there were a way to make the sandpaper work just like new with very little effort, no special tools, and no cost, I'm sure I would do that.
Sadly, there isn't. So I buy sandpaper by the $150.00 roll. And it takes up the space of a large roll of duct tape. I just consider sandpaper the currency of making stuff, and I like to keep my bank account full. Even though I might not need it every day or every week or any given month, I want to know I have the ability to make stuff at any given moment. Most reloaders consider media the currency of cleaning brass. The difference is that media is a bulky, dusty, commodity (that works better after you wash it, even when it's new). And there IS a way to make it work like new with very little time and effort and no cost. So to Gamestalker and I, a little bottle of NuFinish is the currency of cleaning brass, and a little bottle is all you need to have your bank account busting at the seams.
A 25 lb bag of media is a pretty significant amount of space. And change of media is not exactly a frequent occurrence. So why take up valuable "easy reach shelf space" for this? Digging up your lifetime supply of media when you need it is about as fun as digging out all the Christmas crapola out of the shed every Thanksgiving.
For those of us that don't have a dedicated reloading cave, washing media can be very practical. When I am in a reloading mood, I have to dig out my gear and set it all up. If reloading is a major part of your life and you have a permanent temple for all things reloading, then there would be no point. To me, if I can even see reloading gear, that's space I could be using for something I do more often than a few times a year to top off my ammo supply. One of the very reasons I reload is so that I do not have to buy a little ammo here and there as I use it. I can buy bulk components and lead once in a long while, and I will always have ammo in the caliber and loadings I need... when I want it bad enough. If my gear takes up 5 times as much space as a lifetime of ammo, that defeats part of the purpose.
You'd think the same people that pick up other peoples' litter out of the dirt and weeds so that they can clean and reload it would be more receptive to this sort of idea.
When I am sanding finished wood, I use mineral spirits and/or mineral oil to keep the sandpaper unclogged. And I might go over the sandpaper with a brush every now and then to restore the paper. But eventually it stops working. If there were a way to make the sandpaper work just like new with very little effort, no special tools, and no cost, I'm sure I would do that.
Sadly, there isn't. So I buy sandpaper by the $150.00 roll. And it takes up the space of a large roll of duct tape. I just consider sandpaper the currency of making stuff, and I like to keep my bank account full. Even though I might not need it every day or every week or any given month, I want to know I have the ability to make stuff at any given moment. Most reloaders consider media the currency of cleaning brass. The difference is that media is a bulky, dusty, commodity (that works better after you wash it, even when it's new). And there IS a way to make it work like new with very little time and effort and no cost. So to Gamestalker and I, a little bottle of NuFinish is the currency of cleaning brass, and a little bottle is all you need to have your bank account busting at the seams.
A 25 lb bag of media is a pretty significant amount of space. And change of media is not exactly a frequent occurrence. So why take up valuable "easy reach shelf space" for this? Digging up your lifetime supply of media when you need it is about as fun as digging out all the Christmas crapola out of the shed every Thanksgiving.
For those of us that don't have a dedicated reloading cave, washing media can be very practical. When I am in a reloading mood, I have to dig out my gear and set it all up. If reloading is a major part of your life and you have a permanent temple for all things reloading, then there would be no point. To me, if I can even see reloading gear, that's space I could be using for something I do more often than a few times a year to top off my ammo supply. One of the very reasons I reload is so that I do not have to buy a little ammo here and there as I use it. I can buy bulk components and lead once in a long while, and I will always have ammo in the caliber and loadings I need... when I want it bad enough. If my gear takes up 5 times as much space as a lifetime of ammo, that defeats part of the purpose.
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Bamashooter
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Good call Jake, If any of you have a Grainger Supply nearby they also have the corn cob blasting media in 40 lb. bags around $40, I use the 20-40 it is identical to the Lyman corncob media.
mstreddy
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OK, somewhere between washing media, tossing the cookies instead of eating them...
We get this:
You know, I'm cheap, frugal, and have rinsed ziplock bags -- but those I reuse for reloading, not food. I have tried to winnow the media, I've tried to screen it, but in the end I just ended up dumping it out and replenishing.
We get this:
I think that may cause many things to drag...
You know, I'm cheap, frugal, and have rinsed ziplock bags -- but those I reuse for reloading, not food. I have tried to winnow the media, I've tried to screen it, but in the end I just ended up dumping it out and replenishing.
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Oop's, I meant bowl LOL
Ya, that would be a real bummer, and stinky too!
But back to the point I was intending to address. A dirty BOWL, at least in my case, is when the media dust builds up on the sides due to many tumbling sessions. Lube residue creates a cake like build up, when this build up gets bad enough, the brass will start to get a cake like transfer on it also, often times it's as hard as a rock.
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LOLYa, that would be a real bummer, and stinky too!
But back to the point I was intending to address. A dirty BOWL, at least in my case, is when the media dust builds up on the sides due to many tumbling sessions. Lube residue creates a cake like build up, when this build up gets bad enough, the brass will start to get a cake like transfer on it also, often times it's as hard as a rock.
GS
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^^^^^ Exactly what I was thinking! ^^^^^
mstreddy
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GS, I agree a real dirty bowl is generally around when I start getting crud on the cases. What I've been doing is some mineral spirits and the dryer sheets. I'm not using as much NuFinish recently.
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I dont wont to get anywhere near his bowels either-
morcey2
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Two problems with that:
1. You _will_ get stuck cases, period. Motor oil doesn't have the film strength for use as a resizing lube.
2. You _won't_ get all of the oil off by wiping it. You'll need a solvent of some sort to get it off the case. The residue _will_ serve as enough of a lube in the chamber to not allow the brass to grip the chamber at all after it has expanded to fit, resulting in increased bolt thrust. Plus, you don't want petroleum products anywhere near powder or primers.
Those two sound contradictory, but they're not.
Use the drippings to oil your guns instead.
Matt
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You gotta be joking, right?
Because I have it, space that is, and I use it.
I owned my own craft/cabinet shop for years before I retired. Cost of materials was important, but time spent getting the product out the door and payment returned to me was just more important. Trying to restore sandpaper would just be pure folly. Even when one is considering 37" x 60" wide belt sanding belts at $40.00 bucks apiece. Went thru 4 to 5 of those a day at times. Still cheaper than planer knives when dealing with Teak, and the down time required changing plates, even using carbide blades.
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See what happened was, about 15 years ag o Gamestalker went to take a bag of used media out to the garbage..... There was a time traveling group of Nazi hit men there waiting for him.
Thankfully, GS is ALWAYS armed.
After extracting himself from the situation, he vowed wisely never to put himself in that situation again.
So, the media gets washed in the back yard now.
If you think That's weird, you should see some of the other money saving stories some of the more experienced guys have !
Thankfully, GS is ALWAYS armed.
After extracting himself from the situation, he vowed wisely never to put himself in that situation again.
So, the media gets washed in the back yard now.
If you think That's weird, you should see some of the other money saving stories some of the more experienced guys have !
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Yup, that's WIERD alright, somewhat the same as those who drive all over the free parking lot looking for a space rather than put a dime in the parking meter. Two dollars of gas spent to save a dime. Yup those folks are weird alright.LOL
jcwit
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No one knows unless he and his family get a blood test for heavy metals, now do they?
Toprudder
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I'm a titewad as much as anyone. Heck, I think I'll try washing it once just to decide for myself. No cookie sheets, though!
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Yea, I guess you're right, technically.
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I was going to try to be serious in this post...But I can't quit laughing after reading this comment..!!!!
QUOTE: higgite
" The last time I was checked, my doc said my lead level was good, but my chocolate chip level was high."
I can't quit laughing....
I'm glad I came back here after several years because I would have missed all this.!!!
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Ps...GS, I see no reason not to wash your media if you want. It's not always about money or time. Sometimes it's a lifestyle choice.
Most may not understand that, but it's really up to you and it's your choice.
At this time, I am retired and on a tighter budget.
I would tell a few more things I've done to be FRUGAL, but it would just add fuel to the fire at this time.
TxDon
QUOTE: higgite
" The last time I was checked, my doc said my lead level was good, but my chocolate chip level was high."
I can't quit laughing....
I'm glad I came back here after several years because I would have missed all this.!!!
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Ps...GS, I see no reason not to wash your media if you want. It's not always about money or time. Sometimes it's a lifestyle choice.
Most may not understand that, but it's really up to you and it's your choice.
At this time, I am retired and on a tighter budget.
I would tell a few more things I've done to be FRUGAL, but it would just add fuel to the fire at this time.
TxDon
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That is pretty funny I must say. Ive gotten quite a kick out of this thread too. Dont know where you went Don, but glad you're back-
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That is pretty funny I must say. Ive gotten quite a kick out of this thread too. Dont know where you went Don, but glad you're back-
There seems to be a lot more activity here than there was 4 years ago..!!!
I really like it.
TxDon
That is pretty funny I must say. Ive gotten quite a kick out of this thread too. Dont know where you went Don, but glad you're back-
There seems to be a lot more activity here than there was 4 years ago..!!!
I really like it.
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What can I say, we try to keep the drink stirred around here
(within THR rules of course)
(within THR rules of course
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mstreddy
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I think taking anything serious in this thread was way past the first 3 or 4 posts, when even RC, ArchAngel and Walkalong were piling on -- frugal folks all!
So, now, we have high chocolate chip levels, bowels getting sticky, tube socks hanging by the fire with care in the hope that St Nick would soon be there... Oh, wait we're not ready for Christmas yet.
GS, you know we love you brother -- I've actually wanted to do what you have done, but after trying to sift it through a window screen I gave up!
So, now, we have high chocolate chip levels, bowels getting sticky, tube socks hanging by the fire with care in the hope that St Nick would soon be there... Oh, wait we're not ready for Christmas yet.
GS, you know we love you brother -- I've actually wanted to do what you have done, but after trying to sift it through a window screen I gave up!
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lol.
Out of the closet they come! A new sub set of handloaders-media washers.
Out of the closet they come! A new sub set of handloaders-media washers.
mstreddy
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Hey, come on now, we are frugal -- yeah, that's it! How many of us look at items around the house and think of how to re-purpose them at the reloading bench?
jcwit
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Think I'll try refiltering my used motor oil, will make a cheaper gun lube than the Mobil 1 10W/30 new stuff I'm using now.
Wonder if any of those old Frantz filters are still available.
About the fact the rolls of bath tissue are now shorter than they used to be?????????
Wonder if any of those old Frantz filters are still available.
About the fact the rolls of bath tissue are now shorter than they used to be?????????
TexasDon
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I haven't seen them in a very long time, but I do have one like it that uses a roll of paper or bathroom tissue for my air lines from compressor to remove water and oil....Works great and I have a supply of replacable filters in the bathroom closet.
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