Dealing with Home Invasion News Story (OK)

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I opened this article on the local news site figuring I'd get the "Be a Good Victim" routine; I was wrong. Nice to see the news running a story that says you're on your own and may need a gun to deal with your problems.

http://www.news9.com/global/story.asp?s=12816050

TULSA, OK -- Two men broke into a Tulsa apartment Thursday morning. Both of them were shot by a resident, one was killed.

Police say the woman who shot these men was well within her rights, but they have a warning for homeowners. If you face a similar situation, be absolutely certain before you pull the trigger.

Police say the two suspects, Daniel Holman and Darreon Carter, made a deadly mistake by following a woman to her South Darlington apartment early Thursday. Armed with screwdrivers, investigators say they forced their way inside and demanded money.

After receiving it, police say they told the woman to take her clothes off. That's when her boyfriend heard the commotion and began fighting both suspects.

7/15/2010 Related Story: Police Identify Alleged Intruder Shot And Killed In Tulsa Apartment

While they were distracted, police say the woman grabbed her gun and shot both. Carter later died, and Holman remains in critical condition.

"Stranger is in your house that kicked your door down and beat you up, and going to rape you, absolutely. Take whatever actions you need to keep safe," said Sergeant Dave Walker of the Tulsa Police Department.

Tulsa police are dealing with a recent string of violent home invasions. On July 5, 19-year-old Melvin Dan was shot but survived, after police say he broke into an apartment on Riverside.

Home invasions force homeowners to make split-second decisions, and the right response in these situations is never an easy call.

"It's like any other fight you're going to take on one of these deals. If you're going to get on, you better be in it to win it," Walker said.

At the Tulsa Shooting Academy, experts stress that shooting an intruder is a last resort, but it's one people need to prepare for.

"Just having a firearm in the house and thinking you are safe, that's not true. It's a sense of false security," said Brian Hill of the U.S. Shooting Academy.

7/15/2010 Related Story: Grandmother Tells Of Tulsa Home Invasion

The academy stresses training and caution, but Hill points out that if someone enters your home, you are on your own.

"At the time that it matters, the phone cannot help, the police cannot help," Hill said. "Only you can help yourself."

If you're not in a position to fight back, police say you should pay close attention to the intruders so you can relay as many details as possible to investigators.
 
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"It's like any other fight you're going to take on one of these deals. If you're going to get on, you better be in it to win it," Walker said.

At the Tulsa Shooting Academy, experts stress that shooting an intruder is a last resort, but it's one people need to prepare for.

"Just having a firearm in the house and thinking you are safe, that's not true. It's a sense of false security," said Brian Hill of the U.S. Shooting Academy.

WOW! The exact advice given here at THR over and over again. A gun by itself isn't a magic talisman that wards off evil. Prepare yourself to fight and fight to survive.
 
After receiving it, police say they told the woman to take her clothes off. That's when her boyfriend heard the commotion and began fighting both suspects.

All of us are proud of this woman for having the sense to carry a weapon and the will to use it and the skill to use it well. Truly a great outcome.

But I'd also like to commend the boyfriend for not freezing or "going along with the program." It is his actions of attacking the dirtbags that gave her room to access the weapon and bring it into play. Looks like she found a good man.
 
Make sure your sights are bright

Make sure sure your sights are bright your guns are loaded and never leave your gun right by the door, by the time they are in, it will be too late.
My wife and I keep our weapons in our bedroom that is our fort, and we are gonna come blasting that's for sure.
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"It's like any other fight you're going to take on one of these deals. If you're going to get on, you better be in it to win it," Walker said.

At the Tulsa Shooting Academy, experts stress that shooting an intruder is a last resort, but it's one people need to prepare for.

"Just having a firearm in the house and thinking you are safe, that's not true. It's a sense of false security," said Brian Hill of the U.S. Shooting Academy.

WOW! The exact advice given here at THR over and over again. A gun by itself isn't a magic talisman that wards off evil. Prepare yourself to fight and fight to survive.

:D thats right! guns arent magic things that go off, someone has to operate it! just like a car! antis think guns causes crimes... Its the person that used it. You can put 10million guns in a warehouse loaded with ammo. They anit going go off. Someone has to pull that trigger(or slam the gun down hard enough)
 
The way I see it is this; first you have to decide in your mind that you will not be a victim. Regardless of the law, its a big mental bridge to cross. When you pull a weapon you have to be willing to use it, if not all the training in the world can't help you.

For me, I decided I wasn't going to be a victim. Thats why I keep a loaded 1911 within arms reach at all times when I'm home. If someone enters my house with the intent of doing me harm I will shoot to kill.

Guns are not magic, just having one will not help you. You need to train, and train some more, and keep training. Also mentaly you have to be willing to use it.
 
Like everyone says here guns are not magic talisman. The second you pull that gun you better be 100% prepared to use it if needed and not use hope alone that the mere presence of the firearm will stop the attack. If it does, great! If not, unless your willing to use the firearm it just might turn even more dangerous.

Great to hear that this couple stood up and fought and more importantly won! She definitely had the right mindset. In fact I will go out on a limb here and say that the proper mindset is just as important as training, if not a bit more so.
 
It was well written and she made out well. In NC she actually hit just about every possible reason for use of lethal force. Not only serious harm but also sexual assault. On top of that she complies with their demands and gave them every opportunity to avoid forcing her to use lethal force. I would not be as lenient. You break through my door, with a weapon of any kind in your hand and advance on me, you are a lethal threat and I will act to end that threat immediately.

I do get nervous though when I hear a cop cautioning about folks using their firearm for self-defense. IMO, police/press need to be careful making statements like: "...but they have a warning for homeowners. If you face a similar situation, be absolutely certain before you pull the trigger.". There is a certain percentage of firearm owning civilians who would hesitate I think and not react out of fear of being arrested because of these statements made over and over and over. The message comes off as the police are just itching to get in there and arrest a victim.

Yeah, I am paranoid and a bit touchy on these types of statements. 20+ years growing up in NY State hearing this managed to program me to be anti-gun. I have seen what subtle messages over and over can do to someone.
 
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