"Decocking" Taurus Millenium Pro

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Is there a way to decock a Millenium Pro once loaded with one in the chamber? I am getting one for my wife for anniversary, personally I would want to carry with one in chamber, pistol in double action mode, safety off, but I don't think that is possible with the Millenium Pro.

Any carry this gun? Do you carry magazine loaded or chamber loaded with safety on or off?

Thanks!
 
There is no way to decock the MilPro. In fact, if the trigger is partially depressed and the weapon is put on safe, the weapon can still fire while on safe. Try it on an unloaded MilPro. It's pretty scary.

I wouldn't carry mine if it was the only pistol I had.
 
Yes,

1 - insert magazine with one round in the magazine

2 - cycle the slide to chamber the round

3 - point in a safe direction

4 - pull the trigger
 
Yes,

1 - insert magazine with one round in the magazine

2 - cycle the slide to chamber the round

3 - point in a safe direction

4 - pull the trigger
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BJ - I realize you are jesting, but wouldn't it still be cocked at that point? :neener:

Is it really THAT big of deal to manually lower the hammer? :confused: I don't have a MilPro, but a different DA/SA with manual safety and no decocker, and I've lowered the hammer probably 1000 times on a loaded chamber without issue (not I don't mean SHOOTING it :), I mean so it's got one in the chamber, hammer down). Of COURSE I have it pointed where except for soiling myself :what: no real harm would come if it went off...

As for pulling the trigger part way before engaging the safety... why would one do that, and why is it "scary"? :rolleyes:
 
As for pulling the trigger part way before engaging the safety... why would one do that, and why is it "scary"?
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If the operator is sloppy and has the finger on the trigger when not shooting, putting the safety on, but not making the gun "safe" is scary. As the sloppy operator now thinks the safety is on any may get even more sloppy!

Taurus really needs to quietly fix this a ND with the safety on or off is inevitable eventually, but this defect would make the product liability case a slam dunk!

--wally.
 
If the operator is sloppy and has the finger on the trigger when not shooting, putting the safety on, but not making the gun "safe" is scary. As the sloppy operator now thinks the safety is on any may get even more sloppy!

Taurus really needs to quietly fix this a ND with the safety on or off is inevitable eventually, but this defect would make the product liability case a slam dunk!
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I'll buy that - you are exactly correct, assuming it would be easily done accidentally - I was picturing pulling it half-way, or some other unrealistic manipulation.

That's not really very easily done on this gun.
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Ha-ha! Guess I should have looked at one before spouting off... So C&L or chamber empty are the only two possibilities... huh... I have a PT92 with a big spurred hammer.

I'm no genius by any means, but it's not TOO often I try to make two points in a post, and both end up being incredibly stupid... Sorry guys... :)
 
There is no way to decock a Millenium Pro and the safety is not something to be relied upon 100% either!

If carried chambered, best bet is to treat it as a Glock and keep out of the triggerguard altogether.
 
I have a PT-92 as well. It does have the decocker, though. But, you're right on the safety only PT-92, it is easy to decock safely.

I think my wife will prefer to carry magazine loaded only anyways, she is not a big fan of chamber loaded. I tried to talk her out of that, asking what she would do if someone grabbed her and she only had one arm free, but it didn't go very far.

I'll check that safety though when I go back to the store to fill out the paperwork today.
 
My pt-140 is DAO so I carry withone in the pipe and safety on. That way if someone comes at me I use my left hand to keep distance between us and my right hand to pull, drop safety, and fill them up with leaded fuel. I feel it is the same as carrying a revolver, just with more ammo. Wouldn't carry one in the pipe with sa, but thats just me. I carry iwb in front so it's just a little to close to the amusement park for me to carry with on in the pipe in SA.
 
personally I would want to carry with one in chamber, pistol in double action mode, safety off, but I don't think that is possible with the Millenium Pro.
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There is no double action (there is a second strike capability but that's different) on the Millpro and no decocking.

Get a Ruger PT95 if you want a double action and decocker. It is in the same price range as the Millpro but it is bigger and heavier.

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http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/18161
 
There is no double action (there is a second strike capability but that's different) on the Millpro
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I have no dog in this fight, but am annoyed nonetheless. ;)

Taurus lists this gun as available DA/SA (or DAO, but ignore that for now). From what I've read, there is NO WAY to use this DA/SA gun in DA mode, with or without the safety (ignoring second strike). Is that correct?? What a misleading notion by Taurus. How is this not SAO?

I even tried to get to the owner's manual online, but it's not available...

Oh, well. Wasn't going to buy one, but curious anyway....
 
I followed the link - perfect explanation - as I said, I didn't want one before but had nothing against them. Now I REALLY don't want one, and would actually steer others away if asked...

I don't want to offend anyone with the gun, but if I want SAO with a safety, I think it will be a 1911-type. I guess I'm somewhat hypocritical, though, as I do have a Glock 26 with a thumb safety - and that's close to SAO, just going by trigger pull...

Thanks for the lessons!
 
What have I missed? I carry the PT140 as my main carry. Is it now not safe to be carried chambered and on safe? I have not heard of this. Mine is the 3rd gen.
 
This is kind of disturbing to me I guess, My main carry is a Taurus Millennium pt111 pro and I have never had an issue ( yet lol ) That being said I also carry a Glock 19 and it hasnt gone off in the holster either ( yet lol )

I dont think it is any more unsafe than carrying a glock with the lack of a manual safety on it.

If there is an issue with it randomly firing or firing with the safety on let me know because I dont want to die either lol but I would think the safety preventing the slide from moving would be pretty safe


Or if you wanted you could just ask the bad guy to hold on a minute while you get out Tauruses handy little allen wrench style key and unlock the factories safety lock on the right side lol
 
The issue is that if the trigger is depressed any when the safety if engaged, it may not engage properly. Finger off the trigger when engaging the safety and should be okay.

Some may, at times, engage the safety with a thumb immediately after firing without taking their finger totally off the trigger. In that case you could have a SA gun without a working safety and one in the chamber. (Applies to Gen 3 only.)
 
From what I've read, there is NO WAY to use this DA/SA gun in DA mode,
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A light strike/fail-to-fire is the only way, and that's only for the pistols with the second strike capability.

Aparently the military didn't like this setup either, so Taurus added a decocker to the 24/7 OSS.
 
wow I didnt know that Thank You ARTiger

I am very cautious when I place mine on safety as my life and limbs as well as everyone elses ( including my 8 month old sons ) do too.

I guess you do what ARTiger said and be VERY CAUTIOUS WHEN YOU PUT IT ON SAFETY
 
but I would think the safety preventing the slide from moving would be pretty safe
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Actually, this causes an even bigger problem. I just read a lot over at taurusarmed.net. And there were a couple of disturbing things.

1. If the trigger is slightly depressed when the manual safety is put on, the manual safety will show safe, but the gun will fire. DO NOT TRY THIS AT THE RANGE WITH LIVE AMMO! Try it unloaded.

2. If the safety is put on with the trigger slightly depressed, and the gun is subsequently fired with the safety on, extreme damage will result due to the fact that the safety locks the slide forward.

3. There is a space, and I haven't gotten the Mil Pro to look at it yet, in the frame where dirt can get into that will cause the trigger not to return to the full forward position. If this happens, even though you are not depressing the trigger, it will not be in it's full forward position and the safety will not engage properly.

So, on this gun, it is very important after each use, after each cleaning, and prior to loading for carry that the safety be checked for proper functioning.
 
Once again I'm glad and sad.
Glad that Taurus tries to come up with innovative ideas.
Sad that operational and QC flaws just seem to keep popping up.
 
So, on this gun, it is very important after each use, after each cleaning, and prior to loading for carry that the weapon be rendered useless and thrown in the trash.
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Fixed it for ya...

The rendered useless only applies if it actually worked properly from the factory in the first place.
 
I carry my PT145 Pro with the safety off, and don't rely on a mechanical safety of any kind to keep me from shooting myself in the foot, or elsewhere. It's no different from carrying a Glock or an M&P. (oh, and I do carry it with one in the pipe).

While there are no Millennium Pro's with a decock feature, there are the new OSS' with this feature. Just not very easily concealable. Also, there is a new 800 series coming out soon which will be able to be decocked, as it has an external hammer, and should be a smaller, more concealable package than the OSS.
 
The manual safety is redundant on my 2nd generation DAO Mil Pro...I certainly would not have it engaged while carrying it. Just like my revolvers, pull the trigger and bang it fires.

Too bad they went with that DA/SA crap. The second generation was/is quite perfect in every respect.
 
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